Hi Fergal, all, On 6/6/25 5:00 PM, Fergal Cunningham wrote:
And ensuring discussions stay positive and on-topic would also help. We lost many subscribers from members-discuss last year when discussions around the charging scheme and budget became overly heated. This caused over 500 people to unsubscribe from this mailing list, and these people will therefore not be participating in discussions or hearing what people think on important issues, including matters to be voted on.
Yes, the discussions was heated. But in general, loosing 500 people from list doesn't mean loosing 500 members from 20 000 in total (and if so, it's still a small number). And we don't even know how many of that people unsubscribed just because they're not interested in such discussion at all. And also the data alone on how many people left the discussion does not tell us how many LIRs are no longer participating in the discussion. The number based on the number of people is a bit manipulative here. Yes, if we have 20,000 members, even if everyone only commented once in discussion, there will be tons of emails. That's a fact you can't do anything about, this is expectable... yes potentially losing 2% of the opinion is not ideal, but it's not a disaster - just the choice. Yes, it is debatable whether to limit how many emails single sender can write at a period of time (day, week). But experience tells us that every limit can be circumvented somehow if there is some interest. But yes, we can introduce some limits some reducing chat. And when it comes to member discussion, actually identify LIRs - and not just count people without any link. RIPE NCC member discussions are not the same as other RIPE discussions - non-members can't discuss here. And yes, the limit can have dynamic parameters - the first comment in a given time interval is not subject to moderation, the next one is. But please, in these discussions, let's also consider the fact that there're thousands of members. In this context, email count from this list can be huge - by design... - Daniel