Hi,

Actually I have witnessed a bunch of discussions and every time it is coming to the same topic. And I'm my opinion the IPv6 topic is in a way connected. 

RIPE NCC has the job -among several other things- to manage resources and give it's members the ability to use these resources. This management has to be done fair and responsible. Given the historical and present circumstances the RIPE NCC has done a very good and responsible job. You have to keep in mind the policies in perspective of the amount of the resources. 

IP addresses where allocated more and more conservative until we have come to the present waiting list and market. 

Please correct me, if I am wrong. If I have understand correctly RIPE NCC is unable to scale the fees by IP addresses because it is no good to sell. The addresses are distributed to the members as long as the fees are paid and the rules are obeyed. It is regularly checked if the networks are in accordance to the registered purpose. So under any other circumstances no one can pull addresses back from a member and you would not experience this yourself, that someone presumes you are not using addresses and would return them. 

You might argue that there are already fees for ASN and PI resources. My understanding is that these are no fees for the resources but the share for management and tools regarding these resources.

So I'm my opinion the IPv6 discussion is related, because IPv4 is over and it is not RIPE NCC's job to source IPv4 to distribute to it's members. IPv6 is the only viable solution to this.

Matthias


Am 30. Mai 2025 21:29:10 MESZ schrieb Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat@nuclearcat.com>:
Hi all,

I agree with Jean. The pricing discussion keeps getting derailed into IPv6 transition talks. These are two separate issues that need separate discussions.
Let's stay on topic about resource holders paying their fair share based on holdings.


On Fri, 2025-05-30 at 19:58 +0300, Jean Salim wrote:
Each time there's a discussion about resource holders paying their fair share according to their resource holdings at RIPE, like other RIR, you take the discussion towards an unrelated subject that is IPv6 transition. 

On Fri, 30 May 2025, 19:50 Gert Doering, <gert@space.net> wrote:
Hi,

On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 07:38:19PM +0300, Alexey Berezhnev wrote:
> Conclusion
>
> Transition to IPv6 is a long-term necessity ??? that much is clear.

After you have deliberated long and exquisitely why it cannot be done,
what would you suggest how to achieve said necessity?

Gert Doering
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