On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:09, Juri <hostmaster@ntx.ru> wrote:
Hello,
Gerg, please don't move away point of main question. All those things should be discussed separately.
Question stands about membership fees as well. Usually when people ask such questions they get answers like ripe community desired so, or they didn't discuss any other way and didn't choose it.
But each year amount of LIRs is growing. But annual membership fees are stays the same (of course they talk about surplus redistribution, but it almost same).
I support the question that RIPE NCC expenses are not clear for community. It's not clear and not open how much NCC pays for services, hardware, data-centers, staff.
I suggest that financial reports should be more open. Main expenses should be agreed with members.
Fiscal expenses must be justified and agreed with the members. The IT community knows the cost of IT infrastructure. And the membership self-cost should stand for needed expenses.
Hi! As for me RIPE looks like a club. It has some enter fee (the same for anybody) and you do not buy something for this money. But as a member of club you have some rights. For example to get some amount of IP-addresses. :) Of course there are some residual things like separate fee for PI blocks... Of course for this money RIPE could provide more attention and information for newbies (this time we have not received yet messages "unsubscribe me from this strange list", isn't it?) but I still hope that RIPE moves this direction.
Juri
On 12.04.2018 10:30, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 03:51:55PM +0000, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
Thank you for your report.
But I cannot understand some things. The number of members increases every year, but the annual payment isn't changed. The NCC is noncommercial organisation, but the payment for new members is 2000 euro for registration. Is it so hard to print papers and send them by DHL and is it necessary to make the membership so expensive?
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