Hi Sascha, Don't take my word for it.. look at the data yourself. Here is an example... Have a look in the database .. take for instance : the ORG ID's that start with : ORG-NGSL<insert number here between 3 to 27>-RIPE Each is their own LIR ... each has requested a /22 ... 23 entries in total ... (http://pastebin.com/tZvm3WhU ) Created over time, requesting /22's for those various LIR's over multiple days.. ( If I look at the allocations dates of the /22's.. ) This is a very clear example that it is not a single occurrence of creating just an LIR extra, but a planned and executed setup, that was not in line with the intent of the policy of the final /8 policy. The data is available for everyone to see and download, I'm not using any secret info, all this info comes from public sources ... Regards, Erik Bais -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] Namens Sascha Luck [ml] Verzonden: donderdag 19 november 2015 17:34 Aan: members-discuss@ripe.net Onderwerp: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] Board Resolution to Suspend Creation of Multiple LIR Accounts On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 05:19:42PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
Very much related, this German article[1] claims that in November, 2000 new LIRs were created, bringing the total amount of LIRs to almost 13,000. Can someone reconfirm with official numbers, please?
Actually, I would like to see some numbers too (LIR/entity creation). So far we have nothing but the allegation of one participant that a problem actually exists.
I am _very_ much concerned about what that means for any potential future GMs if those, let's call them creative, people and LIRs vote en bloc.
If they are owned by the same entity, it already only has one vote. If they are not, I cannot see how you could prevent them from voting whichever way they see fit. And yes, with ~5-6% turn-out, bloc voting could have a significant effect. rgds, Sascha Luck ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.