On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Thomas Mangin wrote:
Thinking aloud, should RIPE propose several options every year instead of one. This would surely reduce the debate as everyone would have a chance to vote for their preferred pricing model. ( It may be a can of worm, It may not be possible - I am not familiar with RIPE's governance
The original 2012 proposal wasn't so bad actually, it just had a few ugly warts which is why I and a lot of others rejected it. So as not to be accused of just moaning and no solutions, how is this for a proposal? -Categories as before, possibly based on the Nov 2011 proposal. -sane category boundaries so that end-users and new LIRs will usually fall into the smallest category. -*No* double charging of Independent Resources. Either set a charge per or use them for category calgulation, not both. Personally, I fall on the side of a charge per resource as using PI/ASN for category calculation is impossible to do fairly. -No "aging" of resources for category calculation. I've never understood what makes a prefix allocated in 1999 different from one allocated in 2009 anyway. For IPv6 that would be farcical anyway. -The "setup fee" has to go or be drastically reduced. Nobody can tell me it is EUR 2k worth of work to set up a new customer. If it actually *is*, now is a good time to change that ineffective practice. Drop the free meeting tickets, if that makes a difference. Nobody uses them. Of the 10 tickets that the 5 LIRs that I do work for were entitled to, not one was used. -I'd argue that this should only include (and fund!) registry, training, K-root and rDNS service. Members who want RPKI, USB sticks or any other service can fund those via separate service fees. rgds, Sascha Luck
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Thomas Mangin Exa Networks
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