That's not viable yet, have you seen how fragmented the v6 table is, even Tier 1 ISPs have gaps.

I would argue that we just reduce the allocation for additional LIRs. That is if a single legal entity (or it's subsidiaries) register a new LIR, then the new LIR registered can only receive a /24 not a /22.

This way no one would act in bad faith trying to skirt the rules, and young ISPs still have the ability to grow without feeling significantly choked.

-Tim

On 11/02/16 17:02, Janis Jaunosans wrote:

just get ipv6.

On 11/02/16 17:58, Matthias Šubik wrote:

Additionally …

On 11.02.2016, at 16:26, Simon Lockhart <s.lockhart@cablecomnetworking.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu Feb 11, 2016 at 04:22:14PM +0100, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote:

* Nigel Titley <exec-board@ripe.net> [2016-02-11 12:02]:

2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action
should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?

Do not allow additional LIR accounts for a member.

I would concur.

One legal entity, one LIR. This should be easy for RIPE to implement, given
that they require evidence of company registration or equivalent when
establishing an LIR.

Even if it is possible to open more legal entities in the RIPE region, when requiring an exclusive contact person it makes it not any harder for really new members, but harder for self cloning of members.

It might even be needed, to require the new contact person to complete the RIPE course, to slow down abusive behavior.
The use of a simple nominee is therefor more difficult than without the course requirement.

just my two cents
Matthias

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