On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 2:18 pm, Vitalii Zubok <vit@visti.net> wrote:
On 28.04.2023 17:40, Kaj Niemi wrote:
> FWIW, ARIN does not seem to have a problem with charging larger
> organizations more, see
> https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/
> <https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/>
Thanks for this link.
Also I've noticed that in ARIN,
/20 up to and including /18 plus /32 up to and including /28
are referred as SMALL, with a fee of $2000, not $4000+ as proposed in
model A.
>
> Does anyone know whether such large orgs have more influence with ARIN?
> Referring to the mail from the EB a few days ago, EB seems to be of the
> opinion that RIPE NCC couldn't charge recipients of larger allocations
> in RIPEland more than 10k because of $factors such as "these larger
> companies would want a greater say in the organisation’s governance as a
> result of their increased contribution".
>
> While on that topic, I wonder why the EB recommends option 1 and thinks
> that the smaller organizations would not want to have a larger say in
> the organization's [RIPE's] governance as a result of their increased
> contribution.......
>
> But sure, we can compare service fees. It seems that the imaginary LIR
> with IPv4 /21 + IPv4 /22 + 1 ASN + IPv6 /32 would in America,where
> everything is huge, pay only $1000 or 908 euro annually. If you have
> other resources, you're not getting charged for the price of an ASN.
>
>
>
>
> Kaj
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> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of
> Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024
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>> except him and the board of an RIR that needs to spend €40m/year
>> (double than the other RIRs - ARIN is at about $20m, LACNIC - $10m,
>> APNIC - $21m, only the NCC needs $45m) and increase budget with
>> 10-15%/year.
>
> It’s not fair to compare budgets. Compare membership fees. ARIN’s fees
> are for example higher or much higher, depending on service, while their
> budget is half. Apples and oranges?
>
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