Dear George,


A member has set up an additional LIR account roughly 60 times in the past two years. 


The issue is not the operational cost to do this (this is already covered by the sign-up and annual fees). This is about maintaining one system that caters for LIR accounts and another system that caters for RIPE NCC members. They are not the same thing, but we maintain them both. 


See the section “The Hidden Cost of an Exception” in the article on this topic written by my colleague Marco: https://labs.ripe.net/author/marco_schmidt/multiple-lir-accounts-looking-back-and-thinking-ahead/


Kind regards,


Gabor

RIPE NCC Chief Registry Officer




On Mon, 5 Oct 2026 at 10:16, George Porter <george.porter@in-services.co.uk> wrote:

How often does this happen, is it a regular everyday occurrence or is it once a month etc.  Operationally you should be able to work out the operational cost to do this and then couldn’t this cost be charged?  

 

 

 

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Subject: [members-discuss] Re: Board Resolution to Suspend the Acquisition of Multiple LIR Accounts

 

It’s described in the article linked in the announcement;:

 

The workload extends beyond administering the acquisition of an account (set-up, linking accounts to the same members, etc.). Multiple accounts require extra coordination for billing, compliance checks, allocation of voting rights, audits, transfers and closures, and they complicate systems that need to connect account-level information with member-level records.

Currently, much of this work is handled manually or through separate, standalone solutions, making it difficult and costly to update or extend our systems and services. The Board discussed the significant investment in administrative systems that would be needed to address this complexity.

 

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On 30. Sep 2026, at 13:41, Clement Cavadore via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net> wrote:

 

Hello,

I hardly understand where is the overhead for NCC for those 2% of
members: If they already know the organisation with their first
membership, why should it be such an overhead to add another one with
the same administrative informations? Please, explain !

 

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