Considering the 2023 budget [1, page 6] is a round 40M EUR, you are willing to add 9.6M EUR extra just like that? Kaj [1] https://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-786.pdf -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of ivaylo Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 14:21 To: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Consultation on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 Hello, Nor scheme 1 nor scheme 2 are good and fair. Scheme 2 is litle step in the right direction but still far from from what must be. By IANA public documents delegated resources to RIPE are: 688128 IPV4 /22 blocks 2131972 IPV6 /32 blocks 42882 ASN By official data RIPE LIRs are 22500 If constant yearly fee for each LIR is 300 euro, and charge 15 EURO for each block and ASN the LIRs holds (on /22 IPV4, /32 IPV6, and 1 ASN) RIPE will collect: 22500 * 300 = 6 750 000 EURO (688128+2131972+42882)*15 = 42 944 730 EURO SUM: 49 694 730 EURO (nearly 50 milions) Which seems more than enough RIPE to function normally ! On yearly basis RIPE can revisit member taxes depending if are collected more or less money and to ask for increase of constant LIR taxes (300 euro) or to return back money to LIRs (as RIPE done it up to 2021) That will be fair charging scheme for me. As more resources you hold, as bigger your organisation is, as more you have to pay. Ivaylo Josifov VarnaIX / Varteh LTD Varna, Bulgaria _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmembers-discuss&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ccd09960ca3f945f2b04908db20a5f3ad%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638139669350260003%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PNObap8wypLx6XGm3lPL8%2FgO80CE%2FwJVgRP1QZG4rwM%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fmembers-discuss%2Fkajtzu%2540basen.net&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ccd09960ca3f945f2b04908db20a5f3ad%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638139669350260003%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TgUBG6PUZtr7Var3fO%2FfjlcB4Bcf7C7m91S3zknOwhg%3D&reserved=0