On 05/14/2018 02:37 PM, William wrote:

Correct.

Either you are LIR/convert it to PA (which is a bad idea as you give up certain rights in practice, even if all say it is not the case), then you pay via LIR fees or you hold it as (Nx) PI objects and pay 50€ ea per year which is plenty for RDNS and Route objects (not even DB as PI is only a single entry anyway).

If you do not do either, your entry is just a static single DB entry and this surely is not something you want to bill, or the absurdity levels rise to insanity here.

Don't they get rDNS services as well, and not just the DB entry?
And yes, I do believe things like that should be billable.

I think the idea that other people should pay for the services provided is absurd instead.
Like the "if you increase fees, we will drop LIR membership and go back to freeloading like we did before" stance legacy holders have expressed here before: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2016-September/002398.html

Yours sincerely,

Floris Bos