On 22/09/16 13:47, Arash Naderpour wrote:
And because of the mentioned normal human behavior, there are plenty of new members thinking that they should pay less than old members ;)
Arash
That may very well be, but then some research should be done again and those people should check, what the older members, due to historical reasons have bigger allocations, have paid in the past for the membership and allocations. You'd find, that the price has come down a lot in the last years. So .. calculate years of allocation by fees paid every year and you'll find thats exactly the case. You come late to the game, you pay overall less for the ressource. But you also get a smaller piece of the pie. Such is life. Kind regards, Martin List-Petersen Airwire Ltd.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Host.AG <admin@host.ag> wrote:
Nobody wants to drop a scarce resource like ipv4, even if they don't use it. They'd rather sell it and i believe this is the normal human behavior. I believe we should focus on making all ripe members ipv6 ready (100%) and any discounts/costs should be based on ipv6 implementation rather than ipv4.
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:55:12 +0300, Simon Lockhart <simon@slimey.org> wrote:
On Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 09:44:40PM +1000, Arash Naderpour wrote:
Maybe 1k Euro is nothing to many members, but it is something important the end-users that recently had to become a RIPE NCC member, to just receive an small block of /22.
No, they *chose* to join RIPE as an LIR, because it was cheaper than buying the IPs they need on the open market. And you're now asking for it to be even cheaper.
Can anyone from RIPE NCC tell me how many members are holding just an /22?
The data is published, I can't be bothered to write a script to figure it out, but it wouldn't be hard.
http://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/ stats/membership/alloclist.txt
Simon
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