I will not agree with such thinking. In the past, witches were burned at the stakes people died of fever in large numbers once RIP handed out IP addresses without a second thought knowledge and awareness of people is unfortunately limited today we have the knowledge and skills to remedy this one of them is to introduce a fee for IP. The problem will solve itself who uses IP will have no problem to pay 1 EUR/32 who does not use IP will have a cost with which he has to face the mirror and, as in any business, make a decision. Pozdrawiam/Best Regard's Gabriel Sulka -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Tobias Fiebig via members-discuss Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 11:19 AM To: members-discuss@ripe.net Cc: Tobias Fiebig <tobias+ripe@fiebig.nl> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available Moin,
An appropriate audit procedure should be implemented, and this issue should be addressed and regulated.
This discussion has been gravitating around putting _additional_ tasks in the form of being the 'address usage police' on the NCC for some time now. Any form of de-allocation (and we are not even talking LEGACY here, see what is going on in ARIN) is a significant administrative process. Furthermore, no matter how _I_ view addresses (as non-property, of course), many entities actually _do_ view them as property. As such, starting any kind of endeavor of de-allocation is just a sure-shot way of ensuring close to eternal job security for civil litigation lawyers in the NCC region; With the associated additional costs to be shouldered by the membership. However, instead of trying to solve the _social_ problem of IPv4 "keeping without necessarily needing" with some form of policy-legal- hammer, we could also just solve the _technical_ problem of IPv4 scarcity by rolling out IPv6 (as imperfect as it may be). I would bet my whole v4 allocation that--on societal scale, and even when considering rather slow moving enterprises and complex legacy setups--globally rolling out v6 everywhere is _significantly_ cheaper than the long tail of litigation any form of deallocation would drag along. With best regards, Tobias -- Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig T +31 616 80 98 99 M tobias@fiebig.nl _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/gabi%40kompex.pl