Hi, I can somehow see how this might be wanting to rely less upon the one time sign up fee as the /22 IPv4 allocations are gone and the number of new members are a lot lower. The yearly membership fee is a more reliable income source. Also consider how much of the total budget would be from sign up fees. In 2020 the sign up fees appear to have been ~6% of the income, so if that got halved but got more members to join (and as such more annual membership fees) it could potentially provide more income long term. to clarify, I am not really basing this on anything beyond guessing and the "STATEMENT OF INCOME AND EXPENDITURE 2020" from the RIPE NCC Financial Report 2020. -Cynthia On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 6:05 PM Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
On 07/04/2021 14:05, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
In regards to the Charging Scheme for 2022:
I would have hoped that a discussion would have *first* taken place before the NCC decided to propose "to reduce the sign-up fee to lower the barrier for new members to join".
How many times have any of us heard someone say "I wish I could join RIPE and get resources but the signup fee of 2000 Euro is a non-starter".
Are we trying to attract high school students? Is a 2000 Euro signup fee (being reduced to 1000 Euro in 2022) really a non-starter for a startup? Have we been losing LIRs and therefore we need to actively add new members at a lower fee?
Perhaps offer options like:
- reduce yearly membership fee to 1300Euro - reduce signup fee to 1000Euro - other options
and let the membership vote what option we prefer. That would be the democratic thing to do. Right now the option is either accept the charging scheme or reject it and as far as I know it has never happened that a proposed charging scheme has ever been rejected.
Color me disappointed.
-Hank
Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer
Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2022, to be voted on during the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) May 2021, has been published. The Executive Board proposes to continue with the existing fee model in 2022 but to reduce the sign-up fee to lower the barrier for new members to join.
All supporting documents for the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) May 2021 are now finalised and available at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/documentation...
The documents include: - RIPE NCC Annual Report 2020 - RIPE NCC Financial Report 2020 - RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2022
We encourage members to read these documents and provide feedback on them on the Members Discuss mailing list or during the GM itself.
The draft agenda containing all the resolutions to be voted on is also available at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/agenda
An election will be held at this GM to fill two seats on the RIPE NCC Executive Board. There are currently two confirmed candidates. The deadline to nominate candidates is Wednesday, 28 April 2021. All the details are available at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2021/eb-elections
Full remote participation is available to all members, including webcast, live chat and electronic voting. Registration can be completed quickly and easily via the LIR Portal: https://my.ripe.net/#/meetings/active
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen RIPE NCC Managing Director
------------------------------------------ Important Dates and Deadlines ------------------------------------------
28 April: Close nominations for the RIPE NCC Executive Board elections 5 May: Deadline for proxy vote nominations 5 May: Deadline for members to propose resolutions 5 May: GM Agenda finalised 12 May: RIPE NCC Open House session with candidates for the Executive Board election 19 May: Registration closes at 16:00 (UTC+2) 19 May: GM begins with main meeting at 18:00 (UTC+2) 21 May: GM closes with voting results announcement at 10:15 (UTC+2)
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