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[ncc-announce] DNSMON Measurements lost 9:00 - 11:00 CET
by Sean McAvoy 12 Nov '12

12 Nov '12

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear colleagues, As a side effect of upgrading the DNSMON/TTM backends, some DNSMON measurement data was lost this morning between 9:00 and 11:00 CET (8:00 and 11:00 UTC). We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused. Regards, Sean McAvoy, Senior Systems Engineer RIPE NCC

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resource requesting service
by Lu Heng 10 Nov '12

10 Nov '12

Hi I have an advice that maybe it will be good to have a resource requesting service, so people need resource can list their request on the listing service(just like the one listing for sale), not only the person do not need the allocation, but also person like to have the allocation, it would be very useful. How everybody think? -- -- Kind regards. Lu This transmission is intended solely for the addressee(s) shown above. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons other than the intended addressee(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify this office immediately and e-mail the original at the sender's address above by replying to this message and including the text of the transmission received.

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Listing Service: Streamlining Resource Transfers
by Andrew de la Haye 07 Nov '12

07 Nov '12

Dear colleagues, A year ago the RIPE NCC introduced the Listing Service, aimed at streamlining the resource transfer process: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/listing At this time, it only enables RIPE NCC members to list the IPv4 address space they hold and no longer need. Since the depletion of the available IPv4 address pool, there has been an increasing demand from the membership for a service that allows LIRs to request IPv4 address space for transfer. To fulfil this demand, we are currently building an addition to the Listing Service to provide this functionality. RIPE NCC Members will be able to post a request on the Listing Service indicating a prefix size, whether a permanent or temporary transfer is desired, and any other details they wish to disclose. Only RIPE NCC members will be able to view the details in the LIR Portal. On the public website, we will display the total size of all address space that is being requested, without disclosing the identity or other details of the requesters. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, Andrew de la Haye COO RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Launches Technical Emergency Hotline
by Jochem de Ruig 05 Nov '12

05 Nov '12

Dear colleagues, We are proud to announce the launch of the RIPE NCC Technical Emergency Hotline: https://www.ripe.net/contact/technical-emergency-hotline RIPE NCC members told us that they needed to reach us 24/7 in emergency situations following the reverse DNS outage in June 2012. Our members asked and we listened. The RIPE NCC Technical Emergency Hotline is: *+31 (0) 20 626 3571* During office hours [Monday-Friday, 09:00-17:00 (UTC+1)], any calls to the hotline will be redirected to the RIPE NCC front office. Outside of office hours, the number will redirect to a reputable third-party company trained to evaluate the calls and pass on the details of a legitimate report immediately to the appropriate RIPE NCC 24/7 team. As this is a new service, we will be watching it closely over the next few months so that we can evaluate it and make any adjustments to the service if needed. We will report our findings back to RIPE NCC members. Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig RIPE NCC

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Re: [members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Top 20 LIRs use 33% Allocated PA, 88% of LIRs use 10% Allocated PA.
by Jon Morby 25 Aug '12

25 Aug '12

On 2 Aug 2012, at 16:36, Rob Golding <rob.golding(a)othellotech.net<mailto:rob.golding@othellotech.net>> wrote: My objection isn't even on the current method if "sizing", but on the 7% budget increase, when .... 541,000 on RPKI for a "routing database" because (apparantly) people dont trust the existing database (which costs 844,000) - and hasnt the project been canned anyway ? 427,000 on "outreach" - it's a RIR - what advertising does it need to do ? 989,000 on measurement - presumably the usb "dongles" project - why exactly are we wasting members money on this ? Simply junking those items and you've saved nearly 15% for a start agreed 100% Jon -- Jon Morby FidoNet - the internet made simple! 10 - 16 Tiller Road, London, E14 8PX tel: 0845 004 3050 / fax: 0845 004 3051

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Charging scheme discussion
by Nigel Titley 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC Executive Board is very happy to note the detailed level of discussion the membership has engaged in regarding the proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme model. We are very grateful for the feedback we have received, both positive and negative. We have followed the discussions closely and will continue to do so until we have our Executive Board meeting on 2 August to formulate the Draft Charging Scheme 2013, which will be presented for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting on 26 September 2012. The proposed model is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/september-2012/charging-scheme-mode… Some of the issues that have arisen during the discussion on the list are: - Concerns over the self-determination aspect of the model, such as the belief that large LIRs will declare as Small LIRs - Proposals to charge members based on resource usage - Comments that the proposed model favours large LIRs - Proposals to divide costs equally among all members - The Charging Scheme should not be based on IPv4 resources - Changing RIPE NCC status from non-taxable to taxable to have more flexibility in the fee schedule Many of the issues that have risen in the discussions are also included in the Report of the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force, and we would advise you to read this document. It is available as a PDF at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/april-2012/supporting-documents/re… Regarding the issue of changing the RIPE NCC model so that it becomes subject to corporate income taxation, it is unclear how exactly this would impact RIPE NCC finances. However, it could be expensive because the RIPE NCC reserves could come under scrutiny. The Executive Board will continue to monitor the discussions on the mailing list, and we thank you for the valuable input you have given us so far. Best regards, Nigel Titley Chairman of the RIPE NCC Executive Board

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Something strange with RIPE DB
by Alexander Shikov 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Hello! I have a strange behaviour of RIPE DB right now: whois-request from IP 193.0.227.234 returns: # whois -r АS43668 % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf %ERROR:101: no entries found % % No entries found in source RIPE. % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.19.5 (WHOIS3) The same request from 109.68.46.146 returns normal output. Did anyone experience similar problem? -- Alexander Shikov IT Consulting L.L.C. Tel.: +380 44 201 1407 | Fax: +380 44 201 1409 | Mob.: +380 50 410 3057

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Proposal for New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model
by Nigel Titley 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

Dear Colleagues, In recent years, there has been much discussion about the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme. The RIPE NCC Executive Board welcomes this feedback and has followed the discussion on the members-discuss mailing list and at RIPE NCC General Meetings. A Charging Scheme Task Force was established with representatives from different membership categories, as well as members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board and RIPE NCC staff, in order to provide recommendations for updating the Charging Scheme model. In response to the feedback from members and the Charging Scheme Task Force, the RIPE NCC Executive Board has developed a proposal for a new Charging Scheme model. In very broad terms, this model creates a simplified fee structure where the majority of members pay the same fee. The income derived from these membership fees covers the majority of the RIPE NCC’s operational costs. The proposal is available at: www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/september-2012/ We have produced this proposal in answer to members’ discussion of the current Charging Scheme model and by following, as closely as possible, the recommendations of the Charging Scheme Task Force. The purpose of publishing this proposal now is to encourage RIPE NCC members to look at the proposed new model and to give their feedback. The Executive Board will be meeting again in early August 2012 to finalise the proposal that will be presented for a formal vote at the RIPE NCC General Meeting 2012. We urge you to send us any comments or concerns you have about the proposed model by the end of July. Please send your feedback on this proposal to the members-discuss mailing list (members-discuss(a)ripe.net) As ever, if you have any questions or concerns, you can also contact the RIPE NCC Executive Board directly at: exec-board(a)ripe.net Regards, Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman

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Re: [members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Top 20 LIRs use 33% Allocated PA, 88% of LIRs use 10% Allocated PA.
by Adam Waite 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Rob Golding <rob.golding(a)othellotech.net> wrote: >> If you consume water, you don't pay support ticket, >> you pay liters of water. > > Depends on where you live - that's not the case in all locations or all countries - in the UK most people pay a flat *minimal* fee for their water (mine is £114/year) no matter how much you "consume" > That is because the big consumers of water in the UK have succeeded in externalizing their costs onto smaller consumers. And that's exactly what this discussion thread has been about -- trying to force larger consumers of a finite resource to pay in proportion to their consumption.

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Re: [members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Top 20 LIRs use 33% Allocated PA, 88% of LIRs use 10% Allocated PA.
by Sascha Luck 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 09:12:35PM +0100, Rob Golding wrote: >The post office don???t charge for a postcode (necessary to deliver >your mail in most countries) and the is a finite number of those - they >make their money to pay for the database management of postcode through >other services which are *optional*. I'm not sure I'd want the NCC to sell my address to spamm^Wmarketers, even if that means that membership be free... ;) sncr, Sascha

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