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Moderation of the Members Discuss Mailing List
by Fergal Cunningham 26 Sep '25

26 Sep '25

Dear all, In June this year, the RIPE NCC Executive Board passed a resolution to temporarily place the members-discuss mailing list under moderation following the posting of inappropriate mails to the list. At its recent meeting on 4-5 September, the Board passed a further resolution to keep moderation on the list permanently. The Board took this decision because moderation has been activated for the list periodically when discussions become heated. The Board intends that this will bring a stable situation and ensure discussions are always carried out in a respectful and productive manner. The relevant section of the minutes from the recent Board meeting are available at: https://www.ripe.net/s/188th-executive-board-meeting-minutes/116/ The Board also decided to amend the process by which moderation takes place in order to streamline the process and ensure mails are processed as quickly as possible. Rather than having a RIPE NCC staff member and an Executive Board member jointly moderate the list, now the list will be jointly moderated by a member of the RIPE NCC’s Legal and Communications Departments. With this new process, emails will continue to be moderated in accordance with the RIPE Code of Conduct and the purpose of the mailing list. Members who feel their mails have not been moderated correctly can appeal by sending a mail to the Board at: exec-board(a)ripe.net. If the Board agrees that a mail has not been moderated correctly, they will instruct the RIPE NCC to process the mail through to the list. Additionally, all mails sent to members-discuss, whether moderated or not, are visible on the Unmoderated Members Discussion List for three months should you wish to check how mails are processed: https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/members-discuss-unmoderated@ripe.net/ The Board and RIPE NCC staff thank you for your understanding, and we look forward to seeing good discussions in the coming weeks and months on the Draft RIPE NCC Strategy, the Draft Activity Plan and Budget and proposals around the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme. Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q4 2025
by Boris Duval 23 Sep '25

23 Sep '25

Dear colleagues, We have now published the upcoming quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/quarterly-planning We publish these plans each quarter to showcase the work items we will be carrying out over the next months. We welcome your feedback and encourage you to suggest items that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications. - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification If you have any questions or input on these plans, please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Boris Duval Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Spam Mistakenly Put Through to List
by Fergal Cunningham 02 Sep '25

02 Sep '25

Dear all, We mistakenly moderated some spam messages through to the list along with valid emails this afternoon. Apologies for this. Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Does anyone have experience with the seizure of IP addresses at RIPE?
by Thomas Czarnetzki 29 Aug '25

29 Aug '25

Dear, we are the sponsoring LIR of a company that has a claim against a RIPE member in Germany. This claim was confirmed by court judgment through an enforcement order. As part of the compulsory enforcement, there is a garnishment and transfer order instructing RIPE to transfer the members IP addresses. However, RIPE refuses to comply and comes up with all sorts of ideas, e.g. that the creditor should first become a RIPE member, or that the whole matter must first be served to RIPE by a Dutch court, etc. Obviously, RIPE does not seem to care much about applicable EU law and legal proceedings. The lawyer now recommends suing RIPE, since they are not complying with the garnishment order, thereby making themselves liable for damages, and should then directly pay the claim against the RIPE member instead of releasing the IP addresses. That would, of course, be even easier, since nobody would have to deal with the sale of the IPs, etc. Has anyone here ever had any experience with this? Or perhaps an idea how to get RIPE to act in compliance with the law? -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Thomas Czarnetzki ------------------------------------------------- comtrance - your communication entrance E-Mail: t.czarnetzki(a)comtrance.net Internet: http://www.comtrance.net Telefon: +49 (211) 271 59 - 20 Fax: +49 (211) 271 59 - 21 Notfall-Support (24/7): +49 (211) 271 59 - 15 Unternehmenssitz: comtrance service GmbH | In der Steele 35 | 40599 Düsseldorf Handelsregister: AG Düsseldorf / HRB 96082 | Ust-ID: DE-349229353 | Geschäftsführer: Thomas Czarnetzki Alle unsere Leistungen erfolgen ausschließlich auf Basis unserer Allgemeinen Geschäftsbedingungen.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with the seizure of IP addresses at RIPE?
by Lars Grønlund 25 Aug '25

25 Aug '25

Thread: https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/members-discuss@ripe.net/thread/RSMA… Hi Thomas, There is precedent in national courts treating IP addresses as attachable assets (e.g. *Amtsgericht Hamburg, case 67a M 93/19*, and *OLG Wien, case 3 R 195/14y*). The difficulty is that RIPE NCC, under Dutch law, considers them contractual “rights of use” and will only act on a *Dutch court order*. In practice, creditors either secure a voluntary transfer from the debtor or go through proceedings in the Netherlands. Without that, RIPE will not execute a garnishment. Best regards, *Lars Grønlund* GITC ApS · www.gitc.dk

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Re: Does anyone have experience with the seizure of IP addressesat RIPE?
by Jørgen Hovland ☁️ 25 Aug '25

25 Aug '25

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Final Report from the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force
by Peter Hessler 14 Jul '25

14 Jul '25

Dear all, On behalf of the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force, I am delighted to share our final report, which outlines the principles intended to guide the development of a new charging scheme model for the RIPE NCC. You can read the final report at: https://www.ripe.net/s/charging-scheme-task-force-2024/final-report/ Over the course of just under a year, the task force met 18 times to explore a wide range of issues related to how the RIPE NCC could charge its members. These discussions involved disagreements and compromises, but ultimately we reached consensus on the principles presented in this report. The work of the task force, including the minutes from these meetings, is available at: https://www.ripe.net/s/charging-scheme-task-force-2024/ Thank you to everyone who contributed to this process, including all members of the task force and members who provided feedback. Best regards, Peter Hessler Co-Chair, RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q3 2025
by Boris Duval 25 Jun '25

25 Jun '25

Dear colleagues, We have now published the upcoming quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/quarterly-planning We publish these plans each quarter to showcase the work items we will be carrying out over the next months. We welcome your feedback and encourage you to suggest items that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications. - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification If you have any questions or input on these plans, please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Boris Duval Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Charging Scheme Task Force Meeting Minutes Published
by Karla Liddle-White 12 Jun '25

12 Jun '25

Dear all, The minutes from the latest RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force meetings are available, including those from meetings 11, 12 and 13. You can find the published minutes at: https://www.ripe.net/s/charging-scheme-task-force-2024/ The task force welcomes comments on the minutes, either on the list here or you can email them directly at: charging-scheme-task-force2024(a)ripe.net Best regards, Karla Liddle-White Senior Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Re: Reminder that Charging Scheme Task Force comments are open until the end of the month
by D. Walde - Walde IT-Systemhaus 10 Jun '25

10 Jun '25

IPv6 is cheaper to implement, but the transition is a curse for admins. They don't understand it, because they only know 255. Companies should clean up their IPv4 networks. Fees should be fairer for members. We have costs that are rising with the maturity. Yes, perhaps a red line should be applied there. But we're all clear on this point, only because there is a membership charter, and it's not exactly fair. We need to come up with a new fee structure that is fair to all members. -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Walde IT-Systemhaus - CEO Dirk Walde - IT-Specialist

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