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Re: [ncc-announce] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2010
by Bernard Dugas 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Any problem with this message ? I have received no reaction... Best regards. Hello, Thank you for this announcement, but i would need more informations to analyse and build my ideas : Axel Pawlik wrote: > discussions that took place at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2009 > regarding the 2010 Charging Scheme. Please could anyone tell me where i can find a description of these discussions ? I have only found the presentation made at : http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/presentations/charging-scheme-… but no description of discussions around this presentation. > The proposed Draft Charging Scheme 2010 is now available to view at: > http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/draft-charging-scheme-2010.html This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories. Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ? > Membership discussion of the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 proposal can > take place at <members-discuss(a)ripe.net>. My first try on this list, please apologize if any mistake. Thanks a lot, Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009(a)is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|

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Re: [ncc-announce] Voting Options at General Meetings
by Hank Nussbacher 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Axel Pawlik wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > The RIPE NCC Executive Board has been evaluating various options regarding > the proposal to change the voting procedure currently used to elect the > Executive Board during General Meetings. > > Several of these options were presented at the General Meeting in May 2009. > Please refer to this presentation for more details: > http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/presentations/ > > After discussion during this meeting, there was no clear consensus on how to > proceed. The minutes of the General Meeting are available at: > http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/minutes.html > > The Executive Board concluded that in order to widen participation in > elections, it will propose to allow voting by postal ballot for Executive > Board elections. This addition to the voting process will not require a major > effort or a major investment from the RIPE NCC. I think that is a poor choice for testing postal ballots. Due to the low interest in whether one person or another gets elected, the number of postal ballots submitted will be quite low - and you will therefore draw an erroneous conclusion. Why not have postal voting for the charging scheme? Offer a few alternatives - I bet that would generate much more voting interest. > > The Executive Board will monitor whether this enhancement leads to increased > participation and based on these outcomes will decide on further steps. > Sort of like watching the number of boats crossing a river and drawing a conclusion that based on the number of boats and commerce between the 2 shores it doesn't warrant building a bridge on that spot. -Hank > Membership discussion of the proposed changes to voting options for General > Meetings can take place at <members-discuss(a)ripe.net>. > > For your information, there has already been some discussion on the > members-discuss mailing list. The mailing list archive is available at: > http://www.ripe.net/maillists/ncc-archives/members-discuss/2009/index.html#… > > Best regards, > > Axel Pawlik > Managing Director > RIPE NCC >

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Re: [ncc-announce] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2010
by Hank Nussbacher 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

At 16:05 13/07/2009 +0200, Axel Pawlik wrote: Can someone point me to the docs in regards to what happens to resources a LIR marks as "not my customer"? According to http://www.ripe.net/rs/pi-existing-assignments.html on Dec 31, 2009 RIPE will consider those resources as orphans and contact the end users. What happens then? How long does the end user have to sign on with RIPE? At what point will RIPE revoke the allocations? Is there a doc on that entire procedure and timeline we can give customers? Regards, Hank >Dear Colleagues, > >The RIPE NCC has formulated a Draft Charging Scheme 2010 that will take >into account the requirements of policy proposal 2007-01, "Direct Internet >Resource Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC", and the discussions >that took place at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2009 regarding the >2010 Charging Scheme. > >The proposed Draft Charging Scheme 2010 is now available to view at: >http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/draft-charging-scheme-2010.html > >Membership discussion of the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 proposal can take >place at <members-discuss(a)ripe.net>. > >The RIPE NCC Executive Board will monitor discussion and input from the >RIPE NCC membership before publishing a final version of the Draft >Charging Scheme 2010 by 9 September 2009. The RIPE NCC membership will >vote on this version at the RIPE NCC General Meeting on 7 October 2009. > >The RIPE NCC notes that this proposal for the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 >is subject to change based on advice from the RIPE NCC's lawyers on tax >and legal issues. > >For more information, please see the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 FAQs: >http://www.ripe.net/info/faq/membership/charging-scheme.html > >Best regards, > >Axel Pawlik >Managing Director >RIPE NCC

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Abdullah Al-Batati is out of the office.
by Abdullah Al-Batati 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

I will be out of the office starting 07/17/2009 and will not return until 08/21/2009. I will respond to your message when I return. for urgent issue please contact Ahmad Issa. mobile No. 0504671056 email : ahissa(a)sbm.com.sa

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Charging scheme draft again
by Dmitry Kiselev 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Hello! Could anybody point me to discussion archive or any sorce, except charging-scheme-2010.pdf, where discussed my question: "Why PA allocation size and year of allocation takes into account while LIR's score calculation and, in the same time, PI assignment size and year of assignment does not?" Thanks for Your advices! -- Dmitry Kiselev

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Wouter De Clercq is afwezig.
by Wouter De Clercq 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Ik ben afwezig vanaf 17/07/2009 en ik ben niet eerder terug dan 10/08/2009. Voor dringende zaken kan u steeds terecht bij mijn collega's. Met vriendelijke groet, Wouter

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Re: [ncc-announce] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2010
by Bernard Dugas 16 Jul '09

16 Jul '09

Hello, Thank you for this announcement, but i would need more informations to analyse and build my ideas : Axel Pawlik wrote: > discussions that took place at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2009 > regarding the 2010 Charging Scheme. Please could anyone tell me where i can find a description of these discussions ? I have only found the presentation made at : http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/presentations/charging-scheme-… but no description of discussions around this presentation. > The proposed Draft Charging Scheme 2010 is now available to view at: > http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/draft-charging-scheme-2010.html This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories. Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ? > Membership discussion of the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 proposal can > take place at <members-discuss(a)ripe.net>. My first try on this list, please apologize if any mistake. Thanks a lot, Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009(a)is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|

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