Thomas

So let me see if I can understand the situation.

You have supposedly a legal issue which involves two RIPE members (you plus another in Germany). Since you have I assume failed to resolve the issue between the other companies and yourselves you’re now trying a different “strategy”. 

So instead of resolving it between yourselves and maybe via your lawyers or the German courts you decided to post about it to a mailing list?

You also went to the trouble of accusing RIPE NCC of acting illegally?

How is either of these things going to help your case?

I’m fascinated how you think that:


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From: Thomas Czarnetzki <t.czarnetzki@comtrance.net>
Date: Monday, 25 August 2025 at 06:07
To: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net>
Subject: [members-discuss] Does anyone have experience with the seizure of IP addresses at RIPE?

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Dear,

we are the sponsoring LIR of a company that has a claim against a RIPE
member in Germany. This claim was confirmed by court judgment through an
enforcement order. As part of the compulsory enforcement, there is a
garnishment and transfer order instructing RIPE to transfer the member's IP
addresses.

However, RIPE refuses to comply and comes up with all sorts of ideas, e.g.
that the creditor should first become a RIPE member, or that the whole
matter must first be served to RIPE by a Dutch court, etc. Obviously, RIPE
does not seem to care much about applicable EU law and legal proceedings.

The lawyer now recommends suing RIPE, since they are not complying with the
garnishment order, thereby making themselves liable for damages, and should
then directly pay the claim against the RIPE member instead of releasing the
IP addresses.

That would, of course, be even easier, since nobody would have to deal with
the sale of the IPs, etc.

Has anyone here ever had any experience with this?
Or perhaps an idea how to get RIPE to act in compliance with the law?

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