Hi, looking at both proposals it strikes me that even the older ISPs, holding larger assignments (talking about something like /10 - /15) will face a huge increase, leaving the only conclusion that only the very small LIRs holding something like /22-/24 assignments will benefit. The huge majority of those are the new LIRs that were founded only to grab one of the last free assignments - many only with the goal to sell these IPs again after the prices rise to a 'good' level. These few LIRs holding larger assignments than that might benefit, but from a budget point of view it doesn't make much of a difference if this handful of LIR pay more or less than before. I'd like to see a calculation of both models getting run against all So as a conclusion: these adjustments are getting made to charge those who have real customers and act as ISPs more and reduce the cost for those with the main goal of using IPs for trading. Kind regards, Karl -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: thiele@holomua.de <thiele@holomua.de> Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2025 16:08 An: members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: [members-discuss] Consultation on Future RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models [Sie erhalten nicht häufig E-Mails von thiele@holomua.de. Weitere Informationen, warum dies wichtig ist, finden Sie unter https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] Hi to everyone, I have looked at both models. If I have understood the models correctly, it is striking that small and medium-sized LIRs suffer a significant increase in annual fees in both models. Looking at the cost contribution per IP address, it quickly becomes clear that older LIRs with /4 and larger networks in particular are making disproportionately low contributions, even though they have allocated significantly more resources. This should definitely be addressed. Why is the cost contribution per IP not kept linear? Kind regards Peter ________________________________ Notice: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender immediately, destroy all copies from your system and do not disclose or use the information for any purpose. Diese E-Mail inklusive aller Anhaenge ist vertraulich und koennte bevorrechtigtem Schutz unterliegen. Wenn Sie nicht der beabsichtigte Adressat sind, informieren Sie bitte den Absender unverzueglich, loeschen Sie alle Kopien von Ihrem System und veroeffentlichen Sie oder nutzen Sie die Information keinesfalls, gleich zu welchem Zweck. Think before you print! MAGENTA TELEKOM (T-Mobile Austria GmbH) Geschaeftsführung: Mag. Thomas Kicker (Vorsitzender), Aufsichtsrat: Kyra Orth (Vorsitzende) Firmenbuch: Handelsgericht Wien FN 171112 k, UID ATU 45011703 Konto: UniCredit Bank Austria AG IBAN: AT93 1200 0528 4407 2301, BIC: BKAUATWW ________________________________