From: "Gert Doering" <gert@space.net>
To: "Roderick Beck" <roderick.beck@networksourcing.net>
Cc: "Alarig Le Lay" <alarig@swordarmor.fr>,
	<ripe-list@ripe.net>
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Subject: [ripe-list] Re: PI IPv4 and PI IPv6 IXP assignments
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 16:40:57 +0200
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Hi,

On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 06:34:34PM +0100, Roderick Beck wrote:
> The fundamental underlying issue is probably RIPE's cost structure. =
Its
> 2025 spending was 52% more than ARIN. There is less budget =
transparency
> than ARIN in terms of senior management compensation and former RIPE
> employees have told me that staff is receiving a premium to the =
market.
> There are a lot more RIPE member complaints than ARIN member =
complaints.
>=20
> RIPE has 202 employees versus 106 for ARIN. ARIN's operating expenses =
were
> $31.5 million for 2025. But RIPE's was 40 million Euros or using
purchasing
> price parity $48 million.
>=20
> So there is prima facie evidence of costs being too high.

It might not be totally obvious, but "the RIPE region is way more =
complex
than the ARIN region".

If all you have is a single market, basically, all the complications of
"every country in the RIPE region has their own legal framework, company
registers, etc" disappear - and over the last years, due dilligence and=20
legal verification and all that has grown to an enormous burden.

This has been presented by the RIPE management in the ncc-services=20
working group a few times, so for anyone actually interested in the
answers, they are available.


> If you work with or for RIPE or have personal relationships with RIPE
> employees, please don't reply to my comments because your comments are
> tainted by self-interest. You should know better.

Those might actually give you answers that would conflict with your
prejudices...

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
--=20
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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