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Fra: Alexander Leefmann <alex@nycro.de>
Sendt: 5. november 2024 07:15
Til: Timo Hilbrink <timoh@freedomnet.nl>
Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net
Emne: [members-discuss] Re: Serious concerns about the RIPE NCC Cloud Technology Status

Hi Timo,
hi members,

On 4 Nov 2024, at 14:30, Timo Hilbrink via members-discuss wrote:

What do other members think about this, and has the RIPE NCC taken these consequences into account when they decided to move all this data and services to U.S. based hyperscalers?

I think, that privacy is only one concern.

You might argue, that Alphabet and Amazon have the highest level of security you can buy from the shelf. And I tend to agree to that. So I am not very afraid of people outside of these companies or the U.S. government getting access to the data stored with them.

People like to say that the U.S. Government has no interest in RIPE and does not see it as a target. Many targets thought so before Edward showed us otherwise.

But privacy is not the only concern if you outsource your business critical services.

I would be very interested to see the plan of action in case Google decides to suspend the RIPE NCC account for “violation of TOS”. Sure a suspension would be a “mistake”. But even those mistakes can take a few days or weeks to get resolved. Ask me how I know.

If you think I am paranoid, take a second and think about the fact, that he can win the election today.

In addition to that concentrating all of your critical services to a few big players on the market is a declaration of bankruptcy for a organisation that is dealing with decentralised infrastructure a.k.a the internet.

To be honest I do not expect many of you sharing my concerns. The internet and therefore the RIPE is all about the money nowadays. So why would you invest in infrastructure that is not directly beneficial to you and your net worth?

I am not blaming the responsible persons at RIPE NCC. They are just giving in on the pressure from the members who want to save money at all costs.

At the end of the day you get what you pay for.

— Alex ‘arl’ Leefmann
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