Hi Guys, I am seeing my name as main contact person together with Aleksi (To: Magdub Saleh <saleh.magdub@everyware.ch>; Aleksi <aleksi@magnacapax.fi>). Are you expecting an answer from me? I am not working at RIPE 😊 BRs Saleh -----Original Message----- From: Sergey Myasoedov via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net> Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2025 05:20 To: Magdub Saleh <saleh.magdub@everyware.ch>; Aleksi <aleksi@magnacapax.fi> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: [members-discuss] Re: Systematic RIPE DB abuse Aleksi, I understand that any action will cause expenses. But the same database e-mails are used by spammers and by the RIPE NCC, and spammer e-mails will cause expenses for NCC members. So I guess this initiative will be in the best interests of the RIPE NCC membership.
Further, the emails are already in public, any action now will take decades for full effect.
I create a new e-mail addresses for every occasion. It's easy to replace the address in the database. -- Best, Sergey
On Dec 9, 2025, at 08:09, Aleksi <aleksi@magnacapax.fi> wrote:
Hi,
Simply use email address you can have as spam box - or use that data as a signal. YOUR OWN antispam protection hardly falls on the RIPE.
This is the reality we live in; Any (semi)public email address WILL get spam.
If RIPE starts taking measures on that, it means RIPE is spending resources on something which is not part of their mission. Only thing it leads to is increased RIPE membership costs, more complicated operation for all legit operators (friction), and _zero_ protection from nefarious actors who do not care about your little T&C or little friction for antispam, they will simply circumvent whatever means were used if it is valuable enough.
Further, the emails are already in public, any action now will take decades for full effect.
I hate spam probably just as much as you do, but just sending this reply means my email address "leaked" to many people, some of which will add it to their mailing lists. This is simply the world we live in.
Instead, turn this into a victory; Any operator which spams you -> Never buy from them. This works far better than anything RIPE could do. Blacklist them. Before buying IPv4 addresses from spammer, check if they ever spammed you. Then find a seller who did not spam.
Best Regards, Aleksi MCX
On 08/12/2025 19.57, Sergey Myasoedov via members-discuss wrote:
Dear RIPE NCC members,
I’d like to raise the topic of introducing and applying administrative anti-spam measures against RIPE NCC members who deliberately violate Article 4 of the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions.
RIPE NCC requires members to publish up-to-date contact email addresses in the RIPE DB. However, these publicly listed addresses are actively harvested and used for spam by IPv4 brokers and address traders, while RIPE NCC does not take any measures to protect members from this type of abuse.
This issue has been around since the IPv4 market appeared, and although it’s well known, at some point the RIPE NCC staff chose not to act against members who don’t follow the RIPE Database T&C.
My proposal is to freeze transfer operations for members who are repeatedly abusing the RIPE Database.
I’d be glad to hear your thoughts and discuss this further.
-- Best regards, Sergey Myasoedov
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From: "HostM" <info@hostmaster.lt> Subject: Quick question about IPv4 Date: December 8, 2025 at 04:54:23 EST To: <for-spammers@net-art.cz>
Hello, my apologies if this message has arrived at an inconvenient time.
I wanted to check whether you might be interested in acquiring an IPv4 /24 sub-net registered with RIPE. I also have IPv6 resources and an ASN available, which can be included (for free) if you are interested in the IPv4 block.
The ipv4 sub-net is currently unused and fully clean.
The transfer can be completed securely via an escrow service.
If this could be of interest, please feel free to reply to this email, and we can discuss the next steps in more detail.
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