Hi, The record does not support the idea that tiered fees were dropped because they "caused complaints about unfairness", it was exactly opposite. • RIPE NCC Executive Board – chaired by Nigel Titley with board members Remco van Mook, Christian Kaufmann, Dmitry Burkov, etc. initiated process. • 2011-12 Charging-Scheme Task Force (4 volunteer LIRs + 2 board liaisons) urged a simple flat fee, mainly to avoid tax risk from per-IP billing. • The Executive Board therefore put as favorable "Option A – one LIR, one fee (€1 800)" on the Sep 2012 GM ballot. • At the Amsterdam GM (26-27 Sep 2012) Option A passed 197 Y / 105 N / 11 A—about 3.8 % of ~8 000 LIRs voted. Tiered Options B & C were never adopted. Flat fee took effect 1 Jan 2013 and has remained unchanged. A tiered model has simply never been given a comparable vote. On Sat, 2025-05-31 at 12:55 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 01:45:32PM +0300, Jean Salim wrote:
That's not true, last time you were afraid of even putting a tiered model on the ballot while the vast majority of LIRs (which are very small LIRs) wanted to have an option to vote on a tiered model, but you didn't even have the guts to put it to vote.
*I* didn't do anything, as that's vastly outside my influence.
As I said, and if you're truly interested you can easily read this up - we had tiered models for a long time, and it caused quite a bit of friction and complaints about unfairness. So the members voted for a "1 lir 1 fee" model.
No need to believe me there, this is all well documented.
*shrug*
Gert Doering -- NetMaster