On 04/06/2025 10:02:21, sdy@a-n-t.ru wrote:
I agree, but a little more, and we also need some kind of mechanism to involve all participants in important discussions. In the shared LIR space, rather than the wishes of those who voluntarily joined the mailing lists.
You can't. Many do not want to be involved. To a business it does not matter than this service is provided by a not for profit with member involvement. All they want is the service to be provided without drama or rapid/radical surprise changes in policy or pricing. The higher voter turn out a few years back occurred when that stability was threatened. Generally we trust the NCC to just get on with it and go along with their suggestions, except when it was attempted to change the payment model from flat to categories which had significant failings. 1. the categories weighted the bulk of costs on lower tiers resulting in relatively small members paying more. There are only two fair models where everyone is equal - flat fee and per /24. With categories and similar you are choosing who to be unfair to. 2. it failed to account for the people who gamed the system to take lots of the final reserved v4 space and are now selling them off or consolidating the fake memberships. As they leave the costs will be split between fewer members. With the previous categories that would have resulted in the smaller members facing much larger cost increases. 3. the budget grew with those new LIRs, it is not being adjusted back down to match membership reductions, we are going to be paying more no matter how many vote for any charging scheme.
On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 23:01 +0200, D. Walde - Walde IT-Systemhaus wrote:
1. Elections should last 30/31 days (possibly 4 weeks/28 days) or from the 1st of the month to the end of the month. We have time, or does one of you need to know the results tomorrow? OK.
I don't object to longer but it likely won't affect the turn out much, the things being voted for can affect it.
3. Or, votes cast should be recorded as an election point, and as long as there are more "no votes" than "votes," the election must be repeated.
I suspect that will result in endless repeats. brandon