Now we can't have a tiered charging because of dutch tax laws 🤦 

I thought that I have heard it all.

The excuses are becoming more and more ridiculous, as ridiculous as the situation where a one /24 holder pays the same as a large LIR making bank by renting out their resources.

On Sat, 31 May 2025, 11:13 Daniel Suchy via members-discuss, <members-discuss@ripe.net> wrote:

I never said that the layered model would ruin RIPE. That's your
personal lie.

If we want to compare with other RIRs, we should not cherry-pick just
some aspects.  In a similar comparison, we must also take into account
the size of the budget and what the money is spent on and where. It's
not just about implementing a layered model and problem is solved.

It is also true that each RIR lives in a slightly different legal
environment. And among other things, the tax implications of the tiered
model must also be well evaluated.

In our legal environment, tax authorities may assess the tiered model as
a provision of a service. Besides, it was an argument at a time when the
tiered model was abandoned in RIPE (which many have already forgotten).

The argument that they have it that way in the US or Africa probably
won't hold up at all before the European (Dutch) tax office. Non-profit
organizations usually have some tax breaks. But if the tax office
determines that it is a regular service, the tax breaks will disappear.

And from my perspective, a better solution is for the money to stay in
the community. Not in some government budget.

- Daniel


On 5/31/25 9:19 AM, Jean Salim wrote:
> Please open an IPv6 transition thread and stop the disinformation in this
> thread.
> Speaking of which, as pointed out hundred of times, all other RIRs have
> successfully implemented tiered charging schemes, some of them with
> weighted voting power, others not.
> So stop misleading people by saying that tiered charging will ruin RIPE
> when it's been working fine at other RIRs.
>
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