I completely agree, because as the saying goes, "It's never happened before, and here it is again." This isn't the first time we've voted on this. If you want true fairness, there are only two real options: either everyone pays the flat rate we have now (communist-style equity), or everyone pays equally for each membership, IPv6 block, AS-number, and every IPv4 /24 without any tier categories or volume discounts. As a bonus, we could levy a wealth tax on the largest IP holders.

вт, 26 мая 2026 г. в 14:49, Chano Klinck Andersen <cka@evercall.dk>:
A new charging scheme will NEVER change this. The only thing it’ll change, is the market prices of IPv4 addresses.

Perhaps all the energy spent discussing how we can game the charging scheme, in a way that IPv4 addresses will be returned to RIPE, they never will, as many regards them as assets, thanks to the current renting/transfer market, would be better spent on campaigning for better and more broad IPv6 adoption. 

Once IPv6 is broadly adopted, the issue will solve itself, and then what? 

The charging scheme should fund RIPEs activities, not be used as a futile attempt at releasing more IPv4 addresses. The IPv4 train left the station long ago. We’ve known about this problem for 30 years, and the solution already exists. 

Every time it time for the general meeting, and the charging scheme is on the agenda, the mailing list lights up like a Christmas tree, with people complaining about lack of IPv4, and how they believe the charging scheme can be used to free the resources, they desperately needs. 

And as for the missing voter turnout, apparently, I’ve been so busy recently, I forgot to register for voting, I usually does vote, but this year, I had other things to do, and it slipped my mind.

But in short, instead of complaining about the fees to RIPE, which in many cases is less a year, than an average employee would cost in a month, try investing all that energy into IPv6 adoption, it will be MUCH better spent there. 


- Chano Andersen

From: Michal Prokes via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net>
Date: Tuesday, 26 May 2026 at 13.31
To: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net>
Subject: [members-discuss] Re: RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Proposals - result announced.

I agree,
we must fully accept this decision. But it means a lot of work now.

We have opted for equal membership, but many members do not have enough addresses for their operations, while others have many and are even offering them for sale. So let’s find a way to encourage the return of unused IPv4 addresses and allocate them to equal members who are in short supply.

Best regards

M. Prokeš


Dne 26.05.2026 v 10:57 Kaiser, Karl napsal(a):

Hi!

 

We’ve had a vote – now we have a result.

It does not matter if you like it or not – deal with it.

 

Best regards,

Karl

 

Von: D. Walde - Walde IT-Systemhaus <walde@wcs-online.de>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Mai 2026 22:29
An: Stephen Carter (Fujitsu) <stephen.carter2@fujitsu.com>; members-discuss@ripe.net
Betreff: [members-discuss] Re: RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Proposals - result announced.

 

You can certainly believe that I was in favor of Option B—but we simply fell short by 80 votes.
Unfortunately, 400 of our registered voters didn't show up to cast their ballots.
That’s a shame, but we are on the right track.

However, next year we really ought to rethink the whole process and see if we can find a voting format that offers more options or incentives to participate.
We have 20,000 members, yet only 3,000 actually turned out.
That alone clearly shows where the problem begins.
Regards, Dirk.

P.S.: I won't bother calculating the exact participation percentage right now;
suffice it to say that while the overall voter turnout was technically high, for a club of our size,
it remains—quite frankly—a stain on our record.

 
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Stephen Carter (Fujitsu) via members-discuss schrieb:

It's appearing that the charging model is staying as is -

 

 

But the question must be asked, as it was mentioned in the meeting that 75% of members would be better off, so as an interim measure could the charging be a 50/50 split, it could even be over more year’s thirds ? quarters ?

 

So, a member pays half of the flat fee and half of the category fee – as I could see some members having a large increase in their fees if 75% are better off – and that ‘jump’ may not be budgeted for.

 

Stephen

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