December 2025 - members-discuss-unmoderated

RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q1 2026
by Boris Duval 16 Dec '25

16 Dec '25

Dear colleagues, We have now published the upcoming quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/quarterly-planning <https://www.ripe.net/support/documentation/quarterly-planning> We publish these plans each quarter to showcase the work items we will be carrying out over the next months. We welcome your feedback and encourage you to suggest items that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification If you have any questions or input on these plans, please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Boris Duval

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q1 2026
by Boris Duval 16 Dec '25

16 Dec '25

Dear colleagues, We have now published the upcoming quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/quarterly-planning <https://www.ripe.net/support/documentation/quarterly-planning> We publish these plans each quarter to showcase the work items we will be carrying out over the next months. We welcome your feedback and encourage you to suggest items that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification If you have any questions or input on these plans, please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Boris Duval Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Compliments Of The Season
by Mr. Andreas Christian Schneider 16 Dec '25

16 Dec '25

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FW: [ncc-announce] [news] Consultation on Future RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models
by Babaei, Neda 16 Dec '25

16 Dec '25

________________________________ As a small LIR, cost predictability and affordability are critical for us. While Model A is simple and easy to understand, I am concerned that the current category boundaries could result in significant fee increases due to relatively small changes in IPv4 or IPv6 holdings. Such step changes may place disproportionate pressure on smaller members. Model B appears to better reflect the principle of equity, as fees scale more gradually with actual resource usage. However, it is important that the formula remains transparent and easy to understand for all members. I would encourage the RIPE NCC to carefully assess the impact of both models on small LIRs and to ensure that any new charging scheme does not unintentionally disadvantage smaller members. Maintaining a diverse membership base requires that smaller LIRs remain financially sustainable under the new model. Best regards, Neda From: Simon-Jan Haytink <simonjh(a)ripe.net<mailto:simonjh@ripe.net>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2025 5:45 PM To: ncc-announce(a)ripe.net<mailto:ncc-announce@ripe.net> Subject: [ncc-announce] [news] Consultation on Future RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models Dear RIPE NCC members, We have opened Phase 1 of the Charging Scheme Consultation and invite your feedback on two proposed models for the annual fee, which represents the significant majority of the RIPE NCC’s income. *What we are consulting on in Phase 1* The RIPE NCC’s income from members consists of two parts - together they make up the Membership Fee: 1. Annual Fee - the main part of our income 2. 3. 4. Additional Fees - currently these are ASN fees, independent assignment fees and other one-off charges In Phase 1, our focus is only on the annual fee, because this is the foundation of the Charging Scheme and the key element for our long-term financial stability. We are asking for your input on two possible annual fee models: - Model A – Category-based model - Model B – Formula-based model For each model, we have published an explanation and an interactive calculator so you can see how your annual fee would be calculated and explore different scenarios based on your IPv4 and IPv6 holdings. You can find the consultation details and the calculators at: https://www.ripe.net/s/cs-model-consultation-phase-1/ *What feedback we would like to hear* At this stage, we are interested in how the models work in practice, not in fixing the final revenue amount. The figures you see are illustrative and not final. We would particularly value your views on questions such as: - Are there too many categories in Model A, or too few? - Are the category boundaries appropriate - Is a formula-based approach (Model B) preferable to a category-based one? - Does the current formula setup make sense, or are there better options? - Do the models adequately reflect the principles defined by the Charging Scheme Task Force, especially the principle of equity? - Are there any issues you can see that we’ve overlooked? Both models are still drafts. Your feedback now is essential before we further develop the models. Please share your input on the Members Discuss mailing list by the end of January 2026. We will of course follow discussions and we will address queries and comments in early January after the holiday season. *Next steps in the consultation* This consultation is part of a three-phase process: - Phase 1 (now): Consult on two annual fee models (A and B), with calculators – published Dec 2025 - Phase 2: Consult on separate fees (e.g. ASN and independent resource fees) – planned for Jan/Feb 2026 - Phase 3: Publish a combined Charging Scheme proposal (Annual Fee + separate fees) that incorporates member feedback from Phases 1 and 2 – planned for April 2026 The final Charging Scheme proposal will be presented for a vote at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2026. I strongly encourage you to review the two models, use the calculators, and share your perspective. Your participation is vital in helping us develop a Charging Scheme that is stable, transparent and equitable. Kind regards, Simon-Jan Haytink Chief Financial Officer RIPE NCC

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16 Dec '25

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De-activation Notice - members-discuss@ripe.net
by ripe.net 16 Dec '25

16 Dec '25

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Future RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Proposals
by office＠mrejitor.com 15 Dec '25

15 Dec '25

Dear community, I looked at both Category-based and Formula-based models and found a destructive issue with both. The root issue The scheme is too logarithmic. The average fee per IP ranges 5744 times! * The issue leads to the following consequences. Consequence one - market competition Members with fewer addresses should pay a significant share of their income to RIPE. There are many services in the â¬10 or less category in Bulgaria, Romania, and other countries. Small /24 operators should spend at least 4.47% of their income on RIPE fees alone. A prominent /8 owner will spend 0.00001% of that income. The ratio of 5,743 is significant. Consequence two - delaying the move to IPv6 Given the significant historical IPv4 address space, larger companies have fewer reasons to switch to IPv6. If we agree to further multiply this advantage, there will be fewer and fewer economic reasons to switch to IPv6. Consequence three - possible reduction in the number of LIRs With ratios of up to 5,743 times the fees per IP, one can expect the consolidation of LIR accounts to continue. Renting small blocks will be preferable to acquiring them. We already suffer from the declining number of LIR accounts. A decision that leads to future consolidation may require additional rebalancing in the coming years. Possible solutions * Better-balanced fees, with wider boundaries in both directions. A difference of no more than 256 times in per-ip fees. * A fee reduction for big entities if they return address space to RIPE. This reduction will actually pay off by reducing IPv4 queue wait time and, therefore, increasing the number of new members. Best Regards, Alexander 5744 is calculated by dividing the minimum fee per IP for /8 by the cost for /24. It could be up to 11,487 in case the address space is close to /7 IPv4 CIDR Max fee/ IP Discount from /24 /24 to /23 3.41016 0.00% /23 to /22 2.47656 27.38% /22 to /21 1.64746 51.69% /21 to /20 1.03906 69.53% /20 to /19 0.63306 81.44% /19 to /18 0.37598 88.97% /18 to /17 0.21918 93.57% /17 to /16 0.12585 96.31% /16 to /15 0.07143 97.91% /15 to /14 0.04013 98.82% /14 to /13 0.02237 99.34% /13 to /12 0.01237 99.64% /12 to /11 0.00681 99.80% /11 to /10 0.00372 99.89% /10 to /9 0.00203 99.94% /9 to /8 0.00110 99.97% /8 to /7 0.00059 99.98%

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Future RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Proposals
by Alexander Minchev (AbilixSoft) 15 Dec '25

15 Dec '25

Dear community, I looked at both Category-based and Formula-based models and found a destructive issue with both. The root issue The scheme is too logarithmic** and the average fee per IP ranges 5744 times! * The issue leads to the following consequences. Consequence one - market competition Members with fewer addresses should pay a significant share of their income to RIPE. There are many services in the EUR10 or less category in Bulgaria, Romania, and other countries. Small /24 operators should spend at least 4.47% of their income on RIPE fees alone. A prominent /8 owner will spend 0.00001% of that income. The ratio of 5,743 is significant. Consequence two - delaying the move to IPv6 Given the significant historical IPv4 address space, larger companies have fewer reasons to switch to IPv6. If we agree to further multiply this advantage, there will be fewer and fewer economic reasons to switch to IPv6. Consequence three - possible reduction in the number of LIRs With ratios of up to 5,743 times the fees per IP, one can expect the consolidation of LIR accounts to continue. Renting small blocks will be preferable to acquiring them. We already suffer from the declining number of LIR accounts. A decision that leads to future consolidation may require additional rebalancing in the coming years. Possible solutions * Better-balanced fees, with wider boundaries in both directions. A difference of no more than 256 times in per-ip fees. * A fee reduction for big entities if they return address space to RIPE. This reduction will actually pay off by reducing IPv4 queue wait time and, therefore, increasing the number of new members. Best Regards, Alexander * 5744 is calculated by dividing the minimum fee per IP for /8 by the cost for /24. It could be up to 11,487 in case the address space is close to /7 IPv4 CIDR Max fee/ IP Discount from /24 /24 to /23 3.41016 0.00% /23 to /22 2.47656 27.38% /22 to /21 1.64746 51.69% /21 to /20 1.03906 69.53% /20 to /19 0.63306 81.44% /19 to /18 0.37598 88.97% /18 to /17 0.21918 93.57% /17 to /16 0.12585 96.31% /16 to /15 0.07143 97.91% /15 to /14 0.04013 98.82% /14 to /13 0.02237 99.34% /13 to /12 0.01237 99.64% /12 to /11 0.00681 99.80% /11 to /10 0.00372 99.89% /10 to /9 0.00203 99.94% /9 to /8 0.00110 99.97% /8 to /7 0.00059 99.98%

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