Definitely, this is the kind of effort and coverage I appreciate and expect from this working group. The measurement and visualization of these abnormal events provide easy to share insight, very hard to achieve otherwise. As Mark just pointed out, effort duplication is something to avoid in first place, but I do think, also, that putting all the interesting and meaningful graphs in one single place favours the analysis of the event in question, mostly for the not so trained eyes. Not only that, but also duplication of graphs may be worth when using different datasources, as I presume is the case of Renesys and RIPEstat. We might see the case where, the same analysis yield unexpectedly different results, which would in turn raise more questions: food for thought. Seems to me this working group has its own reason for existence pretty much justified as it is essential to understand the network. In summary, my humble opinion is that the development, design and promotion of a tool like RIPEstat (bringing together measurement data from Atlas, DNSmon, RRCs, TTM boxes and external datasets), that can be used for such different purposes as abnormal event analysis or delay and loss heatmaps, is pretty much the way to go. Just the two cents of an enthusiastic student PS: I hope I stood on-topic. First post around here On 1/30/11, Mark Dranse <markd@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi Richard,
On 30/01/2011 17:21:02, Richard L. Barnes wrote:
Couple of suggestions/questions:
-- Could you break out the ASes that are contribute to these graphs? Something like second graph on the Renesys blog entry [1], and/or links to the individual AS pages within RIPEstat or REX. Same would be great for prefixes, but maybe not practical.
It's possible, but I'm reluctant to duplicate other work. We can look at the complexity/benefit in business hours tomorrow.
-- Is this page being automatically updated as things progress? It will be interesting to see how things come back. (If they come back?)
It is being updated regularly via an automated process, so do please keep checking http://stat.ripe.net/egypt, and it will track the re-emergence of the Egyptian Internet.
Thanks for keeping up with this, though.
You're welcome, we feel that this is a useful contribution to the community. With a good level of support and interest, we can justify investing more in such activities in the future.
I would be delighted to hear feedback from other list members on this topic. Is this the sort of work you want to see from the RIPE NCC? Can we alter or improve it to serve and inform you better?
Regards,
Mark
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