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Final draft agenda for the MAT-WG session at RIPE61
by Ian Meikle 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Dear Working Group colleagues, Below is the agenda for the MAT-WG session at RIPE61. This session will run between 1600 - 1730 CET on Thursday 18 November. The agenda is very crowded, which is a good thing, but it means we will be unable to add to it prior to the session. A. Administrivia Welcome, Scribe, Jabber, Microphone etiquette, Agenda B. Traffic Identification Engine Alberto Dainotti, University of Naples C. Neustar Anycast Statistics Ed Lewis, Neustar D. IPv6 Network Measurement Owen DeLong, Hurricane Electric E. Information Systems Update Sean McEvoy, RIPE NCC F. Visualizing geolocated Internet measurements Claudio Squarcella, CAIDA G. Atlas Technical Details Robert Kisteleski, RIPE NCC H. Measurement Framework Proposal and Discussion Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE NCC and the WG Co-Chairs Z. AOB Regards, Ian Meikle, Richard Barnes, Christian Kaufmann

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Test, please ignore
by Richard L. Barnes 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Please ignore.

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Thoughts on the Internet Measurement Ecosystem
by Richard L. Barnes 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Dear MAT WG list, I'm writing to share with you some thoughts that Ian, Christian, and I have been discussing, about how to expand the RIPE TTM network, better integrate it with other measurement systems around the world, and generally knit the Internet measurement ecosystem into a more cohesive whole. We're planning to have some discussion on these topics at the upcoming RIPE meeting in Rome, but we wanted to throw this out to the list to give people an introduction and hopefully spark some early discussions. The network measurement landscape right now is a series of stove- pipes. RIPE has a measurement network; CAIDA, PlanetLab, and their academic peers have a few different networks; and commercial entities like Akamai, Google, and Skype all collect measurements of the network infrastructure as part of measuring their own products. Each of these entities collects its own measurements, does its own analysis, and publishes its own results, independent of other measurements going on in the network. The result of this situation is that Internet measurement systems don't measure the Internet all that well. The Internet is a huge, diverse place, and each stove-pipe covers only a slice of it. Measurements on PlanetLab cover academic networks pretty well, but not home broadband networks. Web measurements from Akamai tells us a lot about the web, but little about VoIP or other real-time applications. Analytics aren't comparable because they're compared on the basis of completely separate data. So the question arises: How can we as a community work together to create a global network measurement ecosystem that facilitates near- real-time network analytics based on observations from points distributed over a large, diverse portion of the infrastructure? One could imagine a few possible realizations of this concept, for example: 1. A system for federating measurement systems, allowing them to share measurements in large volumes and in near-real-time. 2. Individual measurement systems and consumers of measurements could join together in something like the DNS OARC, under a common sharing agreement. 3. A central clearing-house for measurements, where some entities throw measurements in, and other entities get notifications when measurements of interest arrive. (I think of these three examples as analogies to private interconnects, peering points, and route servers, respectively.) There are bound to be several other paths with different trade-offs, and we welcome suggestions. There are clearly several interesting problems to solve in the development of this framework. In addition to the raw technical questions of how much data can be collected and distributed, there are thorny issues around how to incentivize participation, and how to protect the privacy of end users and the anonymity of contributors. We have some hope that these issues are surmountable, and looks forward to discussions on the list and in Rome. One final note: This discussion is closely related to the work that the RIPE NCC has been doing to expand their measurement network, e.g., through the RIPE ATLAS project: <http://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active-measurements-need-more-vantage-poin… > What we're going after here is more general, looking at how projects like RIPE ATLAS and the traditional RIPE TTM could integrate more globally. Thanks for taking the time to read this, and please provide feedback. Even a simple "Yes, this is great", or "No, go away" would help us gauge whether there's any interest in the community. Sincerely, MAT WG chairs Christian Kaufmann Ian Meikle Richard Barnes

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Active Measurements (RIPE Atlas) - Registration Open Now
by Mirjam Kuehne 22 Oct '10

22 Oct '10

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, The launch date of our new active measurements network, RIPE Atlas, is close. We already received a lot of interest and offers to host such a probe. Registration is now open! In this new RIPE Labs article, we explain some more details about how to participate in this effort: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/kistel/ripe-atlas-pre-registration-is-now-open For more information, please refer to earlier articles on the same topic: 1. Active Measurements Need More Vantage Points https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active-measurements-need-more-vantage-poi… 2. Active Measurements - A Small Probe https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/a-small-probe-for-active-measurements?sea… 3. Active Measurements - Hosting a Probe https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active_measurements/hosting-a-probe-for-a… 4. Wanted: Partners to Sponsor "RIPE Atlas" Effort http://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active-measurements-sponsorship Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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DRAFT minutes from RIPE60
by Ian Meikle 22 Oct '10

22 Oct '10

Hi, Our working group was renamed in Prague, but the minutes are labelled using the previous name. The draft minutes from the Test Traffic Working Group at RIPE60 are available online: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/tt/r60-minutes.html Please send any comments and/or amendments to the list to arrive no later than 12:00 UTC on Monday 15 November. We hope to declare these minutes final during the working group session on Thursday afternoon. Thanks to Rene for taking the minutes and to the rest of the NCC staff for their support in organising the session. Regards, Ian

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RIPE61 - Call for Agenda Items
by Ian Meikle 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

Dear WG colleagues, RIPE61 will be held in Rome 15-19 November ( http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-61/). The MAT WG session will be at 16:00 on Thursday 18 November. My co-chairs and I invite you to submit presentations or suggestions for content you would like to see in this session. As a reminder, the working group charter states: The purpose of the working group is to provide a forum in which the RIPE NCC and the community can collaborate in the areas of data, tools and analysis relating to the Internet and its infrastructure, with a loose focus on monitoring, diagnosis, analysis and forecasting. It is not the purpose of the working group to compare the performance of networks for marketing purposes. If you would like to contribute anything to our session at the next RIPE meeting please email mat-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net. Best regards, Ian Meikle Co-chair MAT Working Group

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Active Measurements Network - Call for Sponsors
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, The next article in the Active Measurements series has been published on RIPE Labs: Wanted: Partners to Sponsor "RIPE Atlas" Effort http://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active-measurements-sponsorship It describes sponsorship benefits, but also some more details about the measurement network, including a time line. Please also note the three related articles published earlier: - Active Measurements Need More Vantage Points https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active-measurements-need-more-vantage-poi… - Active Measurements - A Small Probe https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/a-small-probe-for-active-measurements?sea… - Active Measurements - Hosting a Probe https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active_measurements/hosting-a-probe-for-a… Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne https://labs.ripe.net

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Active Measurements - New Project on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Dear colleagues, Please note the third in a series of articles describing the plan to set up a new measurement network by distributing a large number of small probes. If you are interested to host such a probe, please read more on RIPE Labs: - Active Measurements - Hosting a Probe https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active_measurements/hosting-a-probe-for-a… Please also note two related articles published recently: - Active Measurements Need More Vantage Points https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/active-measurements-need-more-vantage-poi… - Active Measurements - A Small Probe https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/a-small-probe-for-active-measurements?sea… Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne https://labs.ripe.net

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Two new datasets added to Data Repository on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Dear colleagues, As part of our Data Repository on RIPE Labs we've started mirroring two new datasets: 1. NLANR AMP Data http://labs.ripe.net/datarepository/data-sets/nlanr-amp-data 2. iPlane traceroute Dataset http://labs.ripe.net/datarepository/data-sets/iplane-traceroute-dataset Kind Regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Labs

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New RIPE Labs article: BGP Route Origin Validation - A follow-up
by Mirjam Kuehne 24 Sep '10

24 Sep '10

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, In July we published a study on the effects of BGP route origin validation on hijackings. In the meantime, some additional research has been done. See the results on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/David_Murray/bgp-route-origin-validation-a-fo… Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Labs Community Builder

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A case study for using public RIPE NCC Tools on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, After a short K-root outage last week, RIPE NCC Chief Scientist Daniel Karrenberg investigated exactly what happened using the public RIPE NCC tools DNSMON and RIS. Read this interesting and informative step-by-step case study on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/investigating/investigating-events-with-r… Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Labs

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Data Repository on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, We launched a new project on RIPE Labs: the RIPE Data Repository. You can read the announcement here: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ripe-data-repository On the projects pages you will find a more detailed description of the project, a list of data sets and the terms and conditions for using those data sets: https://labs.ripe.net/datarepository If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to leave a comment on RIPE Labs or send mail to labs(a)ripe.net. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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Re: [routing-wg] BGP Route Origin Validation - new publication on RIPE Labs
by Randy Bush 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

> David Murray, Trainee at the RIPE NCC, looked at the effects of BGP > route origin validation on mis-announcements and hijackings. You can > find the details on RIPE Labs: > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/David_Murray/content-bgp-route-origin-validat… nice bit of theoritical work, and far more realistic than sharon's. thanks david. folk interested in practice, i.e. running code from gui all the way to and including the router, might look at my preso at praha. http://archive.psg.com/100503-ripe-rpki+origin.pdf with open source bsd license, at <https://subvert-rpki.hactrn.net/>, test images available for ios and ios xr (no, not your iphone, silly), and a support and discussion mailing list. randy

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BGP Route Origin Validation - new publication on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, David Murray, Trainee at the RIPE NCC, looked at the effects of BGP route origin validation on mis-announcements and hijackings. You can find the details on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/David_Murray/content-bgp-route-origin-validat… Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Labs Community Builder

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RIPE Labs 2.0 now live
by Mirjam Kuehne 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

[apologies for duplicates] Dear Colleagues, RIPE Labs 2.0 is now live: http://labs.ripe.net In the year since its launch, RIPE Labs has grown into a dynamic resource that allows the RIPE community to present and discuss new Internet-related tools and ideas. To accommodate the increasing content load on the site, and based on feedback from users, we've made some improvements to ensure a better experience for our users. To promote discussion and sharing of ideas: - It's now easier to comment on each article or tool - You no longer need to register to make comments or join discussions - Registration is only required for contributors of articles or tools To make it easier to navigate RIPE Labs: - The search functionality has been upgraded - A tag cloud shows the most popular topics - Long-term projects now have dedicated pages with detailed descriptions and regular updates Your participation is vital for the continued success of RIPE Labs. If you have any comments or questions about RIPE Labs, or you'd like to contribute to the platform, please don't hesitate to contact us at: labs(a)ripe.net Kind Regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Labs Community Builder

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Bandwidth measurements
by Andrei Sukhov 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi Henk, It is again me, Andrei Sukhov. Earlier our team tries to add mechanism of bandwidth measurements to RIPE Test Box data. We found a method how to calculate an available bandwidth from delays of different sizes of packets. Our report has been submitted in Berlin and Lisbon RIPE meetings. After Lisbon we have made additional experiments and compare our results with well-known pathload utility. The area of applicability of our method will be also found. All our results are included in paper that is attached to this letter. I would like to ask how our method may be used in RIPE Test Box for calculation of available bandwidth. Probably we should to make a report on IETF session (in Beijing ?). Please, give us an advice. Sincerely, Andrei Sukhov

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Welcome to the MAT Working Group
by Webmaster 18 May '10

18 May '10

This RIPE Working Group replaces the Test Traffic Working Group. As you were subscribed to the mailing list for that group, your details have been transferred to the new group. To manage your RIPE Mailing List subscriptions, please go to: http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/mat-wg The purpose of the working group is to provide a forum in which the RIPE NCC and the community can collaborate in the areas of data, tools and analysis relating to the Internet and its infrastructure, with a loose focus on monitoring, diagnosis, analysis and forecasting. It is not the purpose of the working group to compare the performance of networks for marketing purposes. There is more information at: http://ripe.net/ripe/wg/mat/index.html Kind Regards -- Adrian Bedford Web Services Team Leader RIPE NCC

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