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FW: IP Address utilization of The LIRs
by Ilyas . Celik 12 May '11

12 May '11

Dear all, There was a question probably from Daniel that he asked what LIR want to see on stats web page. As a LIR, I want to see IP address utilization for my AS when I query my AS from stat web site. It would be very nice if we get this information per prefix level. I think we can achieve this using netflow (without using confidential information) information. We can tell each LIR to send netflow data (only source,destination address and AS information. No protocol,port & traffic information to avoid confidential data) to distributed RIPE netflow servers. In the MAT-GW presentation, Arbor Atlas presented that they are getting hourly data from 129 different provider. I think we can use this information as well to find exact utilization of the IP Address space of each AS. I'm looking forward to go for IPv6 in my network as well but there is fact that most of the network, access devices doesn't support IPv6 yet. So there is still big demand for IPv4 and I'm sure we have some LIR that they are less than %50 utilization of IP Address. We can take this IPs from these LIRs if they don't have a plan to use this addresses recently and give it to LIRs which they are really need this. This will more give a time to world to move IPv6. Regards, Ilyas Celik

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Suggestion to Ripe stats !
by Andreas Larsen 12 May '11

12 May '11

I would like to see something similar to http://as-rank.caida.org http://as-rank.caida.org/?mode0=as-intro Broken down in terms of country and region. How the calculation of the ranking should be done I leave up to this mailing list to discuss. Regards Andreas Larsen IP-Only

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RIPE NCC Measurements for World IPv6 Day
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 May '11

11 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Please find on RIPE Labs a description of the measurements the RIPE NCC is doing prior to and on World IPv6 Day: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/ripe-ncc-measurements-for-world-ipv6… This is an extended version of the presentation Emile Aben gave in the MAT-WG at RIPE62. Feedback received at the meeting, has been incorporated. Please also note the call for participation for each of the measurements described in the article. If you have any other feedback or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at labs(a)ripe.net. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Next RIPEstat live demo on 17 May 2011 - mark your calendar!
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 May '11

11 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, The next RIPEstat Live Demo is scheduled for Tuesday, 17 May 2011 at 11:30 - 12:00 Amsterdam time (9:30 - 10:00 UTC). I hope you will join us. Details on how to join the demo session can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-5 The minutes of the last sessions and some more information about RIPEstat can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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New feature from stat / ris - route-flap-dampening analysis
by Harald Michl 06 May '11

06 May '11

Hi, I had an idea today morning of what would really interest me: Yesterday there was a short discussion if route-flap-dampening is good or bad or ... If I intend to implement route-flap-dampening it would be nice, if I would be able to know in advance, how my configuration of route-flap dampening would have acted in the past. So: - Enter a prefix - enter parameters for route-flap-dampening - press start Then RIS makes an analysis of the "bgp-history" of the prefix and gets as result if and from when to when your prefix would have been dampened according to the parameters of flap-dampening you entered at start. So you get the probability to play around _before_ eventually configuring route-flap-dampening. Would that be useful? regards, Harald -- Harald Michl <harald.michl(a)univie.ac.at> Vienna University - ACOnet www.ACO.net - VIX www.VIX.at Universitaetsstrasse 7, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Tel: +43 1 4277 - 14078 (Fax: - 9140) HM3550-RIPE

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RIPE 62 Agenda
by Richard L. Barnes 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Hey all, Please find our agenda for RIPE 62 below. Looking forward to seeing you all, --Richard 0. Chairs' intro 1. Robert Kisteleki, RIPE ATLAS update (15m) 2. Darren Anstee, The Arbor ATLAS initiative (20m) 3. Renata Teixeira, Home Network Monitoring (20m) 4. Job Snijders, NLNOG RING (20m) 5. Christian Teuschel, RIPEstat - The Information Toolbox (15m)

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Minutes from the MAT-WG session at RIPE 61
by Ian Meikle 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Dear all, Please find the minutes from our last session below. Apologies for the delay in posting these. If you have any objections or comments please post them to the list. Regards, Ian, Christian and Richard ------------ Measurement, Analysis and Tools Working Group RIPE 61, Rome Thursday 18 November 2010, 16:00-17:30 Scribe: Rene Wilhelm, RIPE NCC Chat: Chris Buckridge, RIPE NCC A. Administrative Matters Co-chair Ian Meikle welcomed attendees and opened the first session of new MAT Working Group. B. Traffic Identification Engine - Alberto Dainotti, University of Naples The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/266-tie-ripe-v5.pdf Alberto presented the research done in the University of Naples on traffic classification. They would appreciate feedback from the operator community. What are the needs of and technical problems encountered by ISPs in the field of traffic classification? The group is also interested in collaborations with service providers. Steve Nash from ARBOR Networks stated he was interested to talk to Alberto about the plug in concept. C. Neustar Anycast Statistics- Edward Lewis, Neustar The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/351-RIPE61MATWG-Lewis.pdf Edward Lewis talked about the DNS statistics gathering system Neustar have in place for about a year now. Daniel Karrenberg from the RIPE NCC asked if the software was in a proprietary package; if there was a chance to get insight into the specifications of how Neustar return things so others could learn and build something themselves. Edward Lewis replied there is no deliverable software. It's not just a package; it's built into the core. Providing an overview of what the product does would be more of a sales presentation. D. Information Services Update - Sean McAvoy, RIPE NCC The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/352-Information_Services_Update_RIPE_6… Sean McAvoy gave an update on developments in RIPE NCC Information Services. An improved UI for the DNSMON service has been released as public beta. E. IPv6 Network Measurement - Owen DeLong, Hurricane Electric The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/353-RIPE61_Measurement.pdf Owen DeLong presented some statistics on IPv6. Countries on v6, growth in routing table, types of network traffic and signs of a first (useless) attack in IPv6. F. Visualizing geolocated Internet measurements - Claudio Squarcella, CAIDA The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/201-preso.pdf Claudio presented some new techniques to visualize Internet measurements based on geographical location. Klaus Darilion, from nic.at, enquired about the software used for these visualisations. Claudio explained he used Google web toolkit, the Raphael JavaScript library (for graphics) and Java code translated into Javascript. G. Atlas Technical Details - Robert Kisteleki, RIPE NCC The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/269-20101118-RIPE61-MAT-Robert.pdf Robert presented the technical aspects of the Atlas project. Design principles as well as implementation details. Wolfgang Tremmel, via the chat, suggested to provide the firmware sources for download in order to prevent hacking. Daniel Karrenberg replied RIPE NCC is not going to provide the source code any time soon. Making RIPE Atlas open source at this moment, while it is just starting would put its success at risk. Someone could take the idea, the design and commercialise it into a competing product. Once the project has established itself, has sponsors and there is more experience, RIPE NCC will be very open to input and requirements from sponsors and the membership regarding these issues. Jelte Jansen from ISC asked how probe re-boots, which could be needed to recover from memory exhaustion, are going to be handled. Will users receive reboot request via e-mail? Robert explained that a watchdog timer handles this. The probe re-boots automatically, is back in business within a minute or so. Ruben van Staveren asked, via the chat, how fast RIPE NCC could provide updates in case of misbehaviour or security issues. Robert replied that the RIPE NCC could disable probes; if a probe is found misbehaving it can be taken off the measurement net immediately. Deploying a new firmware can be done within days, once it is ready. The actual development time for new firmware depends on the amount of changes needed. Daniel Karrenberg added that RIPE NCC does thorough testing before distributing new firmware to the production network. Richard Barnes from BBN commended the RIPE NCC on the design of the system. He stresses the major value of the Atlas network is in the large volume of data it produces. Next to graphical user interfaces and visualisations, he would like to see a programmatic interface, an API to access the raw data. H. Measurement Framework Proposal and Discussion - Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE NCC and the WG Co-Chairs There was a lively discussion on the proposal by the WG chairs of having a single platform that not only shows results from RIPE NCC tools, but also from other organisations, institutions who would be happy to share their data. Daniel added to that his vision of building a measurement community by providing the means to annotate, share and discuss results. This would be the place to go whenever something comes up, an anomaly or strange behaviour of the Internet. The attendees did not oppose the proposal, it was suggested to try it out and see how it evolves. Co-chair Richard Barnes reminded the audience of the mat-wg(a)ripe.net mailing list. He added that it has seen little traffic since the last RIPE meeting, but this will change as things get started. The list will be the venue for collecting community feedback on these topics. Also, RIPE NCC will report more often to the list. People are encouraged to subscribe to the mailing list and participate in the discussion. Richard thanked the audience for attending and closed the session.

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Report of fourth RIPEstat public demo session on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 20 Apr '11

20 Apr '11

Dear colleagues, The minutes of yesterday's RIPEstat live demo session, including a list of the main new features and improvements, are now available on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-4 Reports from previous RIPEstat demos and other related developments can be found here: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Homenet Profiler: understand your home network better
by Renata.Teixeira＠lip6.fr 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

Dear colleagues, We need your help to conduct our research on home networking. We are working on ways to help home users diagnose problems in their home networks. The first step is to better understand the configuration of these networks. We developed a tool called HomeNet Profiler that collects information about the home network such as the device configuration, the quality of the wireless, and Internet access performance. When you run HomeNet Profiler, you will immediately have access to a report. HomeNet Profiler runs on most operating systems and it doesn't install anything in your computer. When you are at home, could you please run HomeNet Profiler from http://cmon.lip6.fr/hnp/ ? We would really appreciate your help and your feedback. Please help us by forwarding this message to others who may be interested. --The HomeNet Profiler team Lucas DiCioccio, Renata Teixeira, Catherine Rosenberg

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Next RIPEstat live demo on 19 April 2011
by Mirjam Kuehne 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, The next RIPEstat Live Demo is scheduled for Tuesday, 19 April 2011 at 11:30 - 12:00 Amsterdam time (9:30 - 10:00 UTC). Please observe the change to summer time. I hope you will join us. Details on how to join the demo session can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-4 The minutes of the last sessions and some more information about RIPEstat can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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RIPE62 Call for presentations
by Ian Meikle 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

Dear WG colleagues, RIPE62 will be held in Amsterdam 2-6 May 2011 ( http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-meetings/ripe-62) The MAT WG session will be at 16:00 on Thursday 5 May. My co-chairs and I invite you to submit presentations or suggestions for content you would like to see in this session. As a reminder, the working group charter states: The purpose of the working group is to provide a forum in which the RIPE NCC and the community can collaborate in the areas of data, tools and analysis relating to the Internet and its infrastructure, with a loose focus on monitoring, diagnosis, analysis and forecasting. It is not the purpose of the working group to compare the performance of networks for marketing purposes. If you would like to contribute anything to our session at the next RIPE meeting please email mat-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net. Best regards, Ian Meikle Co-chair MAT Working Group

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Comments on RIPEstat
by Richard L. Barnes 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

Hey all, This is the standard post-demo thread for comments on RIPEstat. Here are mine to kick things off: -- As I said on the call, it's not really clear right now what the purpose is of the "Query" link. I guess it could help me understand, but it would be extra useful to be able to tweak and re-query. Maybe this could show a text box with a "Re-query" button? -- It seems like visibility graph could be a good way to use ATLAS data? Of course, the ATLAS probes would have to start pinging a little more broadly. -- I like the path length graph a lot. It's kind of useful to have the graph fill in when you mouse over, but it might be nicer if you could show the data value when you mouse over a point, and if the fill could be translucent so that you could still see the other lines. Thanks, --Richard

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Amount of unsolicited traffic from Libya
by Mirjam Kuehne 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

Dear colleagues, Amidst the recent political unrest in the Middle East, researchers have observed significant changes in Internet traffic and connectivity. In this article Emile Aben from the RIPE NCC in collaboration with CAIDA, tapped into a previously unused source of data: unsolicited Internet traffic arriving from Libya. Read this interesting analysis on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/unsolicited-internet-traffic-from-li… Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Report of third RIPEstat public demo session
by Mirjam Kuehne 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Dear colleagues, The minutes of today's RIPEstat live demo session, including a list of the main new features and improvements, are now available on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-3 Reports from previous RIPEstat demos and other related developments can be found here: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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New on RIPE Labs: 6to4 - Why is it so Bad?
by Mirjam Kuehne 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, In an earlier article on RIPE Labs, we showed that a large percentage of 6to4 connections fail. In this new article by Emile Aben, we look at why these connections fail and what can be done about this: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/6to4-why-is-it-so-bad Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Next RIPEstat live demo on 22 March 2011
by Mirjam Kuehne 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

Dear colleagues, The next RIPEstat Live Demo is scheduled for Tuesday, 22 March 2011 at 10:30-11:00 UTC. I hope you will join us. Please find details on how to join the demo session on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-3 The minutes of the last sessions and some more information about RIPEstat can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Read on RIPE Labs: Network Complexity and How to Deal with it
by Mirjam Kuehne 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Prompted by a panel discussion at the RIPE 61 Meeting, this article by Michael Behringer describes the most significant implications of network complexity and suggests ways to deal with it: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mbehring/network-complexity-and-how-to-deal-wi… This is a topic that requires more work and a lot of input from network operators. We hope you will help to advance this subject. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Caidagram: A new tool to visualise Internet measurements
by Mirjam Kuehne 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

Dear colleagues, Following-up from his presentation at RIPE 61 in Rome, Claudio Squarcella published an article on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/csquarce/caidagram-visualization-tool It describes Caidragam, a new tool to visualise geographically annotated Internet measurements, for instance topology, address allocation, DNS and economical data. You can also find a link to the actual tool and a live demo at the end of the article. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Comments on RIPEstat
by Richard L. Barnes 24 Feb '11

24 Feb '11

Just wanted to start a thread on this list where people could contribute thoughts about RIPEstat. To get things started, here are a few things that occurred to me during the call this morning: -- Time zooming is awesome. I haven't yet looked to see if this zooms the linked raw data as well; if it doesn't it should. -- YAML might not be everyone's preferred format for data. It might be nice for the "raw data" link to go to a page that displays the data (e.g., as a table) with links at the top: "Download as: YAML, CSV, JSON, XML, ..." -- The AJAX loading is good, but there's no "busy indicator" that tells me that the request is outstanding, vs. the blocks simply not loading. -- The idea of country indexes (http://stat.ripe.net/country/dk) seems like it could be handy and not too difficult to implement. It would probably be accurate enough to get the geolocation from the delegation files and call up information for those resources. -- +1 on the addition of a methodology link. Again, would be useful, especially for first-time or occasional users, and not too hard to implement (just some static text). Stylistically speaking, it's probably a small enough bit of text that it could be done as an AJAX popup/overlay. Thanks for keeping the community involved in this project, --Richard

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Next RIPEstat live demo on 22 February 2011
by Mirjam Kuehne 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

Dear colleagues, The next RIPEstat Live Demo is scheduled for Tuesday,22 February 2011 at 10:30-11:00 UTC. I hope you will join us. Please find details on how to join the demo session on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ripestat-live-demo-2 The minutes of the last session have been published here: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ripestat-live-demo-1 Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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How much traffic goes to unallocated address space?
by Mirjam Kuehne 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, How much and what kind of traffic is going to unallocated address space? See an analysis of 5/8 and 37/8 done by Merit on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mkarir/first-impressions-of-pollution-in-two-r… Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Three Case Studies on the Egyptian Disconnection
by Mirjam Kuehne 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Claudio Squarcella from Roma Tre University presents three analyses related to the recent events in Egypt, proving interesting behavior in relation to the observed disconnection. He used tools like BGPlay and iBGPlay, developed for the visualisation of BGP dynamics. See his findings on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/csquarce/three-case-studies-egyptian-disconnec… Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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IPFIX Interoperability Event, Prague, March 24-25, 2011
by Brian Trammell 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Greetings, all, The FP7 DEMONS (http://www.fp7-demons.eu) project is organizing an IPFIX Interoperability Event the Thursday and Friday before IETF 80 in Prague, on March 24-25, in cooperation with CESNET (http://www.ces.net) The aim of the event is to test interoperability among developers and vendors of IPFIX Devices, focusing on the core protocol. The results of this event will be used to advance IPFIX down the IETF Standards Track. The event will take place at the offices of CESNET, Zikova 4, 160 00 Prague 6, Czech Republic. Details are available at http://fp7-demons.eu/?p=164 ... please feel free to forward this link to anyone who may be interested. Best regards, Brian Trammell (Organizer) -- trammell(a)tik.ee.ethz.ch

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RIPE Labs - Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday, 8 February
by Mirjam Kuehne 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

[Apologies for duplicate messages] Dear Colleagues, To allow us to update the software behind RIPE Labs, functionality on the site will be reduced between 15:00 and 18:00 UTC on Tuesday, 8 February 2011. During this time, although the site remains available, it will be in "read only" mode. It will not be possible to comment on articles or join in discussions. We apologise in advance for any inconvenience. If you have any questions about this maintenance work, please send an email to <labs(a)ripe.net>. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC http://labs.ripe.net

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Another view of Egypt falling off the net
by John S. Quarterman 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

This view shows paths to six selected nodes inside Egypt, before and during the disconnection: https://www.internetperils.com/perilwatch/20110127.php The timing matches what RIPE saw, and the order matches what Renesys saw. This view is not based on BGP routes; it is derived from regular probes (every 15 minutes) showing hops along the way, and thus shows detail of paths from several cameras outside Egypt to the selected destinations. None of those destinations have reappeared yet. -jsq

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