September 2013 - mat-wg - mailman.ripe.net

New on RIPE Labs: Recent Internet Disruptions in Sudan
by Mirjam Kuehne 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Dear colleagues, Please see this new article on RIPE Labs showing the recent Internet disruption in Sudan as viewed in RIPEstat and RIPE Atlas: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/sudan-internet-disruptions Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC is Migrating the RIS Dashboard to RIPEstat
by Vesna Manojlovic 25 Sep '13

25 Sep '13

Dear colleagues, I would like to remind you of our announcement, made last month. In the coming days, we will be migrating RIS data visualisation to RIPEstat: http://stat.ripe.net We will, therefore, be decommissioning some of the outdated RIS interfaces and tools, and the old backend. We still welcome your feedback, so please let us know your comments so that we can accommodate your needs. More information can be found in the original announcement, below. Regards, Vesna Manojlovic Our Routing Information Service (RIS) has been collecting global BGP routing information for 12 years now. During this period, many different interfaces to analyse and visualise accumulated data have been developed. In line with our long-term goals to provide more consolidated services, we will be integrating the RIS interface's tools and services into RIPEstat. More information about this is detailed in a new RIPE Labs article: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/fatemah_mafi/improved-routing-information-ava… We invite the community to comment on these upcoming changes at MAT-WG. Please submit any requests for additional features via email to stat(a)ripe.net so that we can implement these along with the planned migration of tools and features, or have them added to the RIPEstat Roadmap for later consideration: http://roadmap.ripe.net/ripe-stat/ We look forward to your feedback. Regards, Vesna -- Vesna Manojlovic BECHA(a)ripe.net Senior Community Builder @Ms_Measurements for Measurements Tools RIPE NCC http://ripe.net

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Re: [mat-wg] [atlas] "Spoofing" tests.
by Andrei Robachevsky 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

[copying mat-wg, since it is about measureents] Lorenzo Colitti wrote on 9/18/13 6:42 AM: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com > <mailto:randy@psg.com>> wrote: > > then again, if you think most of the botnets are behind broadband home > networks, it makes an interesting sample. compare spoof density of > natted vs un-natted. but then, how you gonna spoof from behind a nat? > > > Just send the packet? > > I expect a nontrivial proportion of NATs will just say "Source address > not in 192.168.1.0/24 <http://192.168.1.0/24>? Cool, don't have to NAT! > Just pass it along." :-) If only we had data ;). It would be interesting, indeed, to see how feasible spoofing is in a natted environment, broadband access networks in particular. It seems that this is the case where spoofing may cause serious problems to the provider itself, as opposed to someone else in the Internet. So, one could assume that even if there are NATs that allow this stupid thing, there maybe DOCSIS SAV and other safeguards in the BB provider provisioning system. Andrei

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New on RIPE Labs: RIPE Atlas Anchors: Summary and Next Steps
by Mirjam Kuehne 16 Sep '13

16 Sep '13

Dear colleagues, This new RIPE Labs article summarises the findings from the pilot phase of the RIPE Atlas anchors project, and gives details about the decision to move to production using a one-service, smaller box for RIPE Atlas anchors: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/ripe-atlas-anchors-pilot-summary-and-ne… Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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New on RIPE Labs: Further Virtualisation Testing for RIPE Atlas Anchor
by Mirjam Kuehne 16 Sep '13

16 Sep '13

Dear colleagues, Please find a new article on RIPE Labs: "Further Virtualisation Testing for the RIPE Atlas Anchor" https://labs.ripe.net/Members/romeo_zwart/further-virtualisation-testing-fo… This report is a follow up to an earlier article, in which we detailed our investigations into the use of virtualisation technology as a suitable means to provide other services via the RIPE Atlas anchor hardware, beyond its primary anchor function. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Draft agenda for MAT @ RIPE67
by Christian Kaufmann 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

Hello All, This is the draft agenda for the MAT - Measurement, Analysis and Tools Working Group session at RIPE67: A. Introduction Welcome, Scribe, Jabber, Agenda B. Luciano Lenzini: Mobile network measurement app for Android (20min) C. Vesna Manojlovic: RIPEstat update (10min) D. Robert Kisteleki: Infrastructure geolocation using RIPE NCC data sets (15min) E. Razvan Oprea: Mapping Dutch critical infrastructure (20min) F. Vesna Manojlovic: RIPE Atlas update (RIPE NCC) (20min) Z. AOB Timings are approximate. The session will take place at 16:00 local time on Thursday 17th October. See you in Dublin! Richard & Christian

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Using Atlas for commercial services
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 12 Sep '13

12 Sep '13

[Originally discussed on the RIPE Atlas users mailing list and forwarded here per suggestion of Daniel Karrenberg, to be sure the proper WG has a say.] After reading the Atlas ToS <https://atlas.ripe.net/service-rules/> and checking the FAQ <https://atlas.ripe.net/about/faq/>, I still have a question: Can I use Atlas as a basis for commercial services? The ToS is silent about it. The list in <https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kranjbar/future-of-ripe-ncc-technical-services> gives interesting ideas about new uses of Atlas (specially the part about using Atlas to monitor reachability from Nagios, which could become a service sold to people). Of course, Atlas is "best effort", so one cannot sue the RIPE-NCC if it breaks and stops the commercial service. But it still can be an interesting platform. Today, most Atlas uses seem to be for public research, or for "selfish" measurements (checking my network), including by commercial organisations. But I see nothing forbidding people to sell services (monitoring, quality assessment) to other people, based on Atlas. Is it a good idea to explicitely allow or disallow such services?

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New on RIPE Labs: Visualising Bandwidth Capacity and Network Activity in RIPEstat Using M-Lab Data
by Mirjam Kuehne 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Dear colleagues, As a result of the cooperation between the RIPE NCC and Measurement Lab, you can now visualise the bandwidth profiles and network activity of IP prefixes and individual countries in RIPEstat. For more details, please refer to this new article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/vastur/visualising-bandwidth-capacity-in-ripe… Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Re: [mat-wg] Using Atlas for commercial services
by Alex Saroyan 06 Sep '13

06 Sep '13

Instead, commercial companies will start hosting many probes in single room not for sake of community but for sake of getting credits. /Alex Saroyan Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer(a)nic.fr> wrote: >On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 11:04:44AM +0200, > Peter Koch <pk(a)DENIC.DE> wrote > a message of 11 lines which said: > >> but don't forget credit transfers, even if that doesn't change the >> sum. > >You can get credits through a transfer easily when you are a poor >student having an interesting research project. But I assume >commercial companies selling services over Atlas won't have credits >easily for free :-) >

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New on RIPE Labs: The Seismograph and Other New RIPE Atlas Features
by Mirjam Kuehne 06 Sep '13

06 Sep '13

Dear colleagues, We implemented a number of new features in RIPE Atlas, including the seismograph, an interactive tool to easily visualise multiple ping measurements. Please find more information on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/seismograph-and-other-new-ripe-atlas-fe… Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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