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Some suggestions for stat.ripe.net
by Mauricio Vergara Ereche 12 May '11

12 May '11

Hi! I think that this is a great project! It has a nice interface and is very useful to get an "one page" info for everything. Excelent work! I have a few sugestions for the new system that I think can improve the value of this project: * Add an input field for each box, so the owner of the resource (or maybe anyone, I haven't think this too hard) can add more info about that particular item (ie: on geolocation, add the "true" location, on assignments within allocation - well, it's obvious :-P) * On the visibility test, when you get a "!" and a porcentage (let's say, 80%) it would be great to know if there was 80% of the probes over there that wasn't able to "see" the resource, or if 80% of the time was not visible, or if 80% of the times failed to check. Anyhow, I think it would be great to know more about this topic. If something failed, the hour of the fail, or the route to get to that resource. * Can you add a new box for do some kind of lookinglass over the resource from different locations/peers? that would be awesome! When i have to test some anycast cloud, i have to fly all over the looking glass that i can find, and then do my own analysis. Kind regards, Mauricio -- Mauricio Vergara Ereche User #188365 counter.li.org DNS Admin NIC Chile mave [@] nic [.] cl Miraflores 222 piso 14, Santiago CHILE +56 2 9407710 Codigo Postal: 832-0198 http://www.nic.cl

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FW: IP Address utilization of The LIRs
by Ilyas . Celik 12 May '11

12 May '11

Dear all, There was a question probably from Daniel that he asked what LIR want to see on stats web page. As a LIR, I want to see IP address utilization for my AS when I query my AS from stat web site. It would be very nice if we get this information per prefix level. I think we can achieve this using netflow (without using confidential information) information. We can tell each LIR to send netflow data (only source,destination address and AS information. No protocol,port & traffic information to avoid confidential data) to distributed RIPE netflow servers. In the MAT-GW presentation, Arbor Atlas presented that they are getting hourly data from 129 different provider. I think we can use this information as well to find exact utilization of the IP Address space of each AS. I'm looking forward to go for IPv6 in my network as well but there is fact that most of the network, access devices doesn't support IPv6 yet. So there is still big demand for IPv4 and I'm sure we have some LIR that they are less than %50 utilization of IP Address. We can take this IPs from these LIRs if they don't have a plan to use this addresses recently and give it to LIRs which they are really need this. This will more give a time to world to move IPv6. Regards, Ilyas Celik

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Suggestion to Ripe stats !
by Andreas Larsen 12 May '11

12 May '11

I would like to see something similar to http://as-rank.caida.org http://as-rank.caida.org/?mode0=as-intro Broken down in terms of country and region. How the calculation of the ranking should be done I leave up to this mailing list to discuss. Regards Andreas Larsen IP-Only

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RIPE NCC Measurements for World IPv6 Day
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 May '11

11 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Please find on RIPE Labs a description of the measurements the RIPE NCC is doing prior to and on World IPv6 Day: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/ripe-ncc-measurements-for-world-ipv6… This is an extended version of the presentation Emile Aben gave in the MAT-WG at RIPE62. Feedback received at the meeting, has been incorporated. Please also note the call for participation for each of the measurements described in the article. If you have any other feedback or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at labs(a)ripe.net. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Next RIPEstat live demo on 17 May 2011 - mark your calendar!
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 May '11

11 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, The next RIPEstat Live Demo is scheduled for Tuesday, 17 May 2011 at 11:30 - 12:00 Amsterdam time (9:30 - 10:00 UTC). I hope you will join us. Details on how to join the demo session can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-5 The minutes of the last sessions and some more information about RIPEstat can be found on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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New feature from stat / ris - route-flap-dampening analysis
by Harald Michl 06 May '11

06 May '11

Hi, I had an idea today morning of what would really interest me: Yesterday there was a short discussion if route-flap-dampening is good or bad or ... If I intend to implement route-flap-dampening it would be nice, if I would be able to know in advance, how my configuration of route-flap dampening would have acted in the past. So: - Enter a prefix - enter parameters for route-flap-dampening - press start Then RIS makes an analysis of the "bgp-history" of the prefix and gets as result if and from when to when your prefix would have been dampened according to the parameters of flap-dampening you entered at start. So you get the probability to play around _before_ eventually configuring route-flap-dampening. Would that be useful? regards, Harald -- Harald Michl <harald.michl(a)univie.ac.at> Vienna University - ACOnet www.ACO.net - VIX www.VIX.at Universitaetsstrasse 7, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Tel: +43 1 4277 - 14078 (Fax: - 9140) HM3550-RIPE

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RIPE 62 Agenda
by Richard L. Barnes 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Hey all, Please find our agenda for RIPE 62 below. Looking forward to seeing you all, --Richard 0. Chairs' intro 1. Robert Kisteleki, RIPE ATLAS update (15m) 2. Darren Anstee, The Arbor ATLAS initiative (20m) 3. Renata Teixeira, Home Network Monitoring (20m) 4. Job Snijders, NLNOG RING (20m) 5. Christian Teuschel, RIPEstat - The Information Toolbox (15m)

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Minutes from the MAT-WG session at RIPE 61
by Ian Meikle 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Dear all, Please find the minutes from our last session below. Apologies for the delay in posting these. If you have any objections or comments please post them to the list. Regards, Ian, Christian and Richard ------------ Measurement, Analysis and Tools Working Group RIPE 61, Rome Thursday 18 November 2010, 16:00-17:30 Scribe: Rene Wilhelm, RIPE NCC Chat: Chris Buckridge, RIPE NCC A. Administrative Matters Co-chair Ian Meikle welcomed attendees and opened the first session of new MAT Working Group. B. Traffic Identification Engine - Alberto Dainotti, University of Naples The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/266-tie-ripe-v5.pdf Alberto presented the research done in the University of Naples on traffic classification. They would appreciate feedback from the operator community. What are the needs of and technical problems encountered by ISPs in the field of traffic classification? The group is also interested in collaborations with service providers. Steve Nash from ARBOR Networks stated he was interested to talk to Alberto about the plug in concept. C. Neustar Anycast Statistics- Edward Lewis, Neustar The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/351-RIPE61MATWG-Lewis.pdf Edward Lewis talked about the DNS statistics gathering system Neustar have in place for about a year now. Daniel Karrenberg from the RIPE NCC asked if the software was in a proprietary package; if there was a chance to get insight into the specifications of how Neustar return things so others could learn and build something themselves. Edward Lewis replied there is no deliverable software. It's not just a package; it's built into the core. Providing an overview of what the product does would be more of a sales presentation. D. Information Services Update - Sean McAvoy, RIPE NCC The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/352-Information_Services_Update_RIPE_6… Sean McAvoy gave an update on developments in RIPE NCC Information Services. An improved UI for the DNSMON service has been released as public beta. E. IPv6 Network Measurement - Owen DeLong, Hurricane Electric The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/353-RIPE61_Measurement.pdf Owen DeLong presented some statistics on IPv6. Countries on v6, growth in routing table, types of network traffic and signs of a first (useless) attack in IPv6. F. Visualizing geolocated Internet measurements - Claudio Squarcella, CAIDA The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/201-preso.pdf Claudio presented some new techniques to visualize Internet measurements based on geographical location. Klaus Darilion, from nic.at, enquired about the software used for these visualisations. Claudio explained he used Google web toolkit, the Raphael JavaScript library (for graphics) and Java code translated into Javascript. G. Atlas Technical Details - Robert Kisteleki, RIPE NCC The presentation is available at: http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/269-20101118-RIPE61-MAT-Robert.pdf Robert presented the technical aspects of the Atlas project. Design principles as well as implementation details. Wolfgang Tremmel, via the chat, suggested to provide the firmware sources for download in order to prevent hacking. Daniel Karrenberg replied RIPE NCC is not going to provide the source code any time soon. Making RIPE Atlas open source at this moment, while it is just starting would put its success at risk. Someone could take the idea, the design and commercialise it into a competing product. Once the project has established itself, has sponsors and there is more experience, RIPE NCC will be very open to input and requirements from sponsors and the membership regarding these issues. Jelte Jansen from ISC asked how probe re-boots, which could be needed to recover from memory exhaustion, are going to be handled. Will users receive reboot request via e-mail? Robert explained that a watchdog timer handles this. The probe re-boots automatically, is back in business within a minute or so. Ruben van Staveren asked, via the chat, how fast RIPE NCC could provide updates in case of misbehaviour or security issues. Robert replied that the RIPE NCC could disable probes; if a probe is found misbehaving it can be taken off the measurement net immediately. Deploying a new firmware can be done within days, once it is ready. The actual development time for new firmware depends on the amount of changes needed. Daniel Karrenberg added that RIPE NCC does thorough testing before distributing new firmware to the production network. Richard Barnes from BBN commended the RIPE NCC on the design of the system. He stresses the major value of the Atlas network is in the large volume of data it produces. Next to graphical user interfaces and visualisations, he would like to see a programmatic interface, an API to access the raw data. H. Measurement Framework Proposal and Discussion - Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE NCC and the WG Co-Chairs There was a lively discussion on the proposal by the WG chairs of having a single platform that not only shows results from RIPE NCC tools, but also from other organisations, institutions who would be happy to share their data. Daniel added to that his vision of building a measurement community by providing the means to annotate, share and discuss results. This would be the place to go whenever something comes up, an anomaly or strange behaviour of the Internet. The attendees did not oppose the proposal, it was suggested to try it out and see how it evolves. Co-chair Richard Barnes reminded the audience of the mat-wg(a)ripe.net mailing list. He added that it has seen little traffic since the last RIPE meeting, but this will change as things get started. The list will be the venue for collecting community feedback on these topics. Also, RIPE NCC will report more often to the list. People are encouraged to subscribe to the mailing list and participate in the discussion. Richard thanked the audience for attending and closed the session.

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Report of fourth RIPEstat public demo session on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 20 Apr '11

20 Apr '11

Dear colleagues, The minutes of yesterday's RIPEstat live demo session, including a list of the main new features and improvements, are now available on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/markd/ripestat-live-demo-4 Reports from previous RIPEstat demos and other related developments can be found here: http://labs.ripe.net/ripestat Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Homenet Profiler: understand your home network better
by Renata.Teixeira＠lip6.fr 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

Dear colleagues, We need your help to conduct our research on home networking. We are working on ways to help home users diagnose problems in their home networks. The first step is to better understand the configuration of these networks. We developed a tool called HomeNet Profiler that collects information about the home network such as the device configuration, the quality of the wireless, and Internet access performance. When you run HomeNet Profiler, you will immediately have access to a report. HomeNet Profiler runs on most operating systems and it doesn't install anything in your computer. When you are at home, could you please run HomeNet Profiler from http://cmon.lip6.fr/hnp/ ? We would really appreciate your help and your feedback. Please help us by forwarding this message to others who may be interested. --The HomeNet Profiler team Lucas DiCioccio, Renata Teixeira, Catherine Rosenberg

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