I am very curious to see the minutes of the local-ir meeting since I was not able to attend. When handing out IP addresses was a few a week we all handled it on a volunteer basis and everyone was happy. Then we formed a RIPE and everyone was asked to "fund" the registration process of IP addresses, domain names, individual names, etc. And we all gladly pay it. But when I recently posted in regards to our plans to charge customers for IP address registration I got all sorts of flames. When the number of requests will start approaching a thousand a month and the government in your country is not willing to fund the operation of an Internic out of the generosity of their heart, and the computing center where you work cannot any longer dedicate you to a fulltime registar position then something has to give. As Eric-Jan has brought up, people will soon want home IP numbers and I foresee the only logical solution will be to simply charge users a small registration fee. Those that are serious about connecting up will gladly pay $30-$50 for a class C net. Those that just want to call up and bother you since it is a currently a free non-discriminating service will think twice if they have to dig into their 16 year old wallet and shell out $50. I would like to see a European/RIPE "recommendation" for costs for: a) IP address registration b) domain name registration c) routing update Hank