Re: [lir-wg] Assignment Procedures for multi-homed customers

Hi Kristofer, I thought that a customer can NOT get an AS# from Ripe without first becoming a LIR!! Vise versa, he/she can become a LIR without necessarily getting an AS#. Am I missing out on something?? Wilson
Kristofer Sigurdsson <kristofer@nh.is> 02/26/03 02:15pm >>> Hi,
Gernot Schwalm, Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:52:25PM +0100 :
Hi,
we have a customer who wants to be multihomed in the near future and therefore needs/wants his own AS. Will he get his own PA-Allocation then or do we have to request PI-Space for him?
There is nothing unusual about announcing PA address space, even if it's not yours (as long as the LIR in question permits it), so your customer should simply go ahead and request for an AS (well, only LIR's can request an AS, but there is nothing wrong with a LIR requesting one for a customer). The LIR would then make the assignment origin in the customer's AS. However, you might want to make your customer sign a legal contract to clearify this point, i.e. that the address space belongs to the LIR, not the customer, in case they want to switch to another upstream provider. -- Kristófer Sigurðsson Nethönnun ehf.

HI; Wilson Mehringer wrote:
I thought that a customer can NOT get an AS# from Ripe without first becoming a LIR!!
Wrong, any customer of a LIR can apply via the LIR for an ASN Number as long as he meets the requirements.
Vise versa, he/she can become a LIR without necessarily getting an AS#.
Right. best regards, Arnd -- NetHead Network Design and Security Arnd Vehling av@nethead.De Gummersbacherstr. 27 Phone: +49 221 8809210 50679 Köln Fax : +49 221 8809212

Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:09:03PM +0100, Wilson Mehringer wrote:
I thought that a customer can NOT get an AS# from Ripe without first becoming a LIR!!
Wrong. Only a LIR can *request* an AS#, but the LIR can request the AS# for their customer.
Vise versa, he/she can become a LIR without necessarily getting an AS#.
Yes. Being LIR doesn't necessarily require you to be multihomed, so no need to automatically assign an AS# Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 57147 (56285) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
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