Re: [lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued
Sure, becoming a LIR and obtaining an AS-Number are two very different things. You dont need to be a LIR to get an AS-Number. You can apply for an AS-Number as soon as you have routeable ip-space and 2 upstreams for BGP4 peering. (Please correct me if they did change that recently)
To keep the administrative overhead small, I'ld suggest to let the new AS- owner show at least two agreements within "x" month after the assignment of the AS-# only if there are less than two verified peerings. I'ld see a verified peering as a record in both AS's whois-entry _and_ seen on the RIPE BGP-router (or on some other "neutral" point, like EP routers).
ripe-227 (asnrequestform), issued 1 Octboer 2001 requires an "X-NCC-RegID:" I do not recall when exactly the NCC stopped to work on ((PI-)IP-Adress and AS Number) requests from Non-LIRs. It's been a while :-) Wilfried.
"Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" wrote:
Arnd Vehling wrote
Sure, becoming a LIR and obtaining an AS-Number are two very different things. You dont need to be a LIR to get an AS-Number. You can apply for an AS-Number as soon as you have routeable ip-space and 2 upstreams for BGP4 peering. (Please correct me if they did change that recently)
ripe-227 (asnrequestform), issued 1 Octboer 2001 requires an "X-NCC-RegID:"
I do not recall when exactly the NCC stopped to work on ((PI-)IP-Adress and AS Number) requests from Non-LIRs. It's been a while :-)
This means you can only send in an asn-request if youre LIR, thats right, but i did send in several asn-requests on behalf of customers when i worked for a german ISP from 96-98. There is no relation between getting an AS-Num and beeing a LIR AFAIK. best regards, Arnd -- NetHead Network Design and Security Arnd Vehling av@nethead.De Gummersbacherstr. 27 Phone: +49 221 8809210 50679 Köln Fax : +49 221 8809212
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 03:07:55PM +0200, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
I do not recall when exactly the NCC stopped to work on ((PI-)IP-Adress and AS Number) requests from Non-LIRs. It's been a while :-)
One has always been able to apply for an AS number without being a LIR - one just needs to have the application handled via an existing LIR -- Denesh Bhabuta Cyberstrider Limited - www.cyberstrider.net Aexiomus Limited - www.aexiomus.net Nominet PAB Member ; co-Chair RIPE LIR-WG
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