Re: [lir-wg] RE: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Discussion about RIPE-261
At 01:59 PM 25-05-03 -0700, Michel Py wrote: Can you explain "%G Pop."? How is it calculated? I assume it has to do with GDP but please explain the calculation as well as the source of the numbers (the exact UN stats page would help). Needless to say, your numbers do not seem to take in any socio-economic factors. Assigning a /12 to North America as well as to Northern Africa and India might make socialistic sense as well as being "politically correct", but from a reality standpoint, it just don't fly. -Hank
Below is an example interpolated from the work we have done on geographic assignments: http://arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us/ipv6mh/geov6.txt
Quick notes: - We are presently talking about PA space; the document mentioned above refers to PI space. However the geographic cutoff collapsed to the country level would not change.
- I chose to assign a /8 to the entire world, which can be discussed. This means that after we colonize 255 other planets we have a problem :-) can someone help me with that warp drive please?
- What could also be discussed are the details of how this was generated, but I would like to get the _concept_ across then we can talk about the details.
Zone Population %G Pop. IANA ---------------- ---------- ------- -------------- China 1284971000 20.91% 2346:0000::/11 Continental Asia 673454413 10.96% 2346:2000::/11 India 1025096000 16.68% 2346:4000::/12 Northern Africa 565854163 9.21% 2346:5000::/12 Asian Islands 488468000 7.95% 2346:6000::/12 Western Europe 423412058 6.89% 2346:7000::/12 North America 318243350 5.18% 2346:8000::/12 South America 350724557 5.71% 2346:9000::/13 Eastern Europe 307858000 5.01% 2346:9800::/13 Middle East 258577000 4.21% 2346:A000::/13 Southern Africa 242566332 3.95% 2346:A800::/13 Central America 175719760 2.86% 2346:B000::/14 Oceania 30568053 0.50% 2346:B400::/16 ---------------- ---------- ------- -------------- World 6145512686 100.00% 2346:0000::/8
Example of one zone:
Country Population %Z Pop. %G Pop. IANA ------------------- ---------- ------- ------- -------------- United States 285926000 89.85% 4.65% 2346:8000::/13 Canada 1015000 9.75% 0.50% 2346:8800::/17 Hawaii 1224398 0.38% 0.02% 2346:8880::/21 Bermuda 60000 0.02% 0.00% 2346:8888::/24 Greenland 12483 0.00% 0.00% 2346:8889::/24 -------------------- ---------- ------- ------- -------------- Zone: North America 318243350 100.00% 5.18% 2346:8000::/12
Implementing such a system would change the way large(global) LIRs request space from RIRs. As of today, they would typically request one /32 per RIR. For people the size of Sprint, they would then have to request a /32 per country they service and assign space to customers from the correct prefix.
What this means to large LIRs is a large initial number of prefixes, but it's not fundamentally worse than an always-growing number of /32s when IPv6 finally takes off IMHO.
For smaller LIRs that service only one country, there would be no change.
There would be some impact on the GRT as there would be a "SPRINT-USA" block, an "ATT-USA" block, a "SPRINT-GERMANY" block, an "ATT-GERMANY" block, etc. In other words, what we are looking at is one /32 prefix per country per large LIR, opposed to as many /32s a large LIR would need in the long run anyway.
Comments welcome.
- inside that RIR allocation, use the binary chop algorithm described in RIPE-261 for the RIR->LIR distribution.
I'm not familiar with this; would that be something like RFC3531?
Michel.
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Hank Nussbacher