FWD: [GLOBAL-V6] New draft available: IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy
For your information: You might want to read the latest iteration of the 'IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy' draft before the actual discussion of the draft during the lir wg session at the RIPE meeting next week. David K. --- ----- Forwarded message from Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> ----- X-Delivered-For: <david@iprg.nokia.com> X-mProtect: <200204251156> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection X-Authentication-Warning: data.staff.apnic.net: majordom set sender to owner-global-v6@lists.apnic.net using -f To: global-v6@lists.apnic.net Subject: [GLOBAL-V6] New draft available: IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:54:02 -0400 From: Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.1 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.1 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) A revised version of the IPv6 address document is now available. It incorporates feedback from the recent RIPE, APNIC and ARIN discussions, as well as many wording cleanups. It is believed that the document is consisent with the discussions held so far and the consensus calls of APNIC and ARIN. The document can be found at: IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy ftp://ftp.cs.duke.edu/pub/narten/ietf/global-ipv6-assign-2002-04-25.txt Thomas - - This list (global-v6) is handled by majordomo@lists.apnic.net ----- End forwarded message -----
Hi, I have a concrete question and a general comment with regards to this. The concrete question is illustrated by an example: o Assume I'm a transit service provider with my own AS o Assume that I only sell "wholesale" service to a smaller number of customers o Assume that I want to provide IPv6 service o Assume that all my customers have their own IPv6 address allocations Now, where does that leave me in terms of getting IPv6 addresses assigned to number my internal network and the few internal servers we have? The way I read the draft policy, the answer would be "out in the cold". One possible way out would be to get an e.g. /48 assignment from one of the downstreams, which address-space-wise would be sufficient to number this network. However, there is no guarantee that the route for the /48 would not be filtered away "all over the place" (I would guess that it *would* be filtered away). The result would be that if the connection to the downstream which announces the enclosing /32 goes away, so does the general connectivity to the systems in my own AS. Another option could be to get an address assignment from one of my upstreams. However, again, my general connectivity would be married with that provider's connectivity (do to assumed filtering of /48 routes), so does not prove to be useful in a setup with more than one "upstream" provider; if the connectivity with that provider was broken, so would my general connectivity be, even though I have physical connectivity via my other upstream(s). My baggage is from IPv4, so I may have missed a few details (corrections appreciated), but it seems to me that the attempt of imposing a strict hierarchical address allocation covering multiple routing domains can at best be characterized as an attempt at putting a band-aid across the gaping chest-wound called "IPv6 multihoming", by in essence telling people "don't do that!" and also "you do not have routing-wise autonomy (or visibility) even though you have an AS". The draft policy says that "routability" is not guaranteed for any assignment or allocation, and the policies as to what is commonly filtered and what isn't are not yet defined (I think), but how many think /48s will be universally accepted? (I certainly don't.) Regards, - Håvard
o Assume I'm a transit service provider with my own AS o Assume that I only sell "wholesale" service to a smaller number of customers o Assume that I want to provide IPv6 service o Assume that all my customers have their own IPv6 address allocations
If all your custommers have their own IPv6 address allocation, all are ISP. You provide only transit for ISP (no hosting, no lease lines for big custommers, no global services for vISP) I don't think there is many such organizations. But I think a RIR will give a /32 to such an organization : it needs a /32 and there is no other solution. -- Xavier Henner Responsable de l'exp�rimentation IPv6 Nerim -- Fournisseur d'acc�s � Internet URL: <http://www.nerim.net/>
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David Kessens
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Havard Eidnes
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Xavier Henner