From: "Chris Hallam" <CHallam@sdlintl.com>

I, for one, haven't looked closely into the operations of ICANN, but if the general opinion is that, 'the RIRs can fulfil their mission without ICANN.', then I am happy to accept that judgement. =================================================

The U.S. Department of Commerce has indicated that it wants ICANN to be well-funded. The market value for each /8 is about $168,000,000 per year. Leasing 100 or 200 of those per year should keep ICANN "well-funded"...100 would generate $16,800,000,000. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space http://www.icann.org/correspondence/doc-to-icann-10jul02.htm "The Department will also consider whether ICANN has a mechanism to ensure adequate financial and personnel resources to carry out its mission." http://www.icann.org/correspondence/doc-to-icann-26nov02.htm http://www.arin.net/library/minutes/bot/bot2002_0408.html Release of Portion of Escrow Funds to ICANN Scott Bradner motioned that the ARIN Board of Trustees authorize the President to release $243,020.00 to ICANN. This represents 50% of the funds that ARIN is holding in escrow pending the execution of a contract between the RIRs and ICANN. This ==================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallam" <CHallam@sdlintl.com> To: <lir-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: [lir-wg] RIPE Payments to ICANN

If my assumptions are correct, the point being made here is that the RIPE NCC is being questioned over the use of funds, generated from the LIRs, to support other organisations. In this case the ICANN.

While it would be interesting to know the sum paid by the RIPE NCC to ICANN, as outlined in the document below, the matter is already under focus, and the remaining 50% of the contribution is not going to be paid unless the Executive Board says otherwise. If other participants of this forum agree that contributions to ICANN should be suspended, then those people need to voice their opinions to ensure the Executive Board don't change their minds.

I, for one, haven't looked closely into the operations of ICANN, but if the general opinion is that, 'the RIRs can fulfil their mission without ICANN.', then I am happy to accept that judgement.

The full document for the 29th Meeting of the RIPE NCC Executive Board can be found here: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/board/minutes/twenty-nine.html

Financial information relating to ICANN can be found here: http://www.icann.org/financials/

One document that caught my attention was the Report of Expense Reimbursement and Other Payments to ICANN Directors: http://www.icann.org/financials/director-expenses-fye2002.htm

Chris

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming@ameritech.net] Sent: 27 November 2002 02:37 To: lir-wg@ripe.net Subject: [lir-wg] "...need to raise funding for first half of 2003..."

How much does RIPE currently pay to ICANN ?

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc11/msg00184.html (3) The ICANN budget will not support much funding for the GNSO in first half of 2003, so our budget assumptions are still valid (ie the GNSO will need to raise funding for first half of 2003). =====

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