Hi all, there is one big problem i see: If you charge your customers for traffic, you must count the traffic, and the easiest and most reliable way to do this is on the firewall/router. Thats the way we do and therefore we need one IP per customer. Most customers have more than onme site and for that we are using HTTP 1.1 (NameVirtualHosts). As long as there is no Package for apache to cout the traffic !reliable! (the traffic counted via access logs is << real traffic ) I do not see a way to put all customers to a couple of IPs. Greetinmgs from Germany Henning Brauer Hostmaster BSWS ------------------------------------------------ BS Web Services Roedingsmarkt 14 20459 Hamburg Germany info@bsmail.de www.bsws.de fon: +49 40 3750357-0 fax: +49 40 3750357-5 PLEASE USE EMAIL WHERE POSSIBLE Sascha Luck <lucks@indigo To: Nurani Nimpuno <nurani@ripe.net> .ie> cc: lir-wg@ripe.net Sent by: Subject: Re: IP assignment for virtual webhosting owner-lir-wg@ ripe.net 08.05.00 18:36 Please respond to lucks Thus spoke Nurani Nimpuno:

mandatory for NEW installations to use domain based web-hosting, with the exception of a set of agreed applications needing IP based web-hosting (eg. SSL).

I'd go one step further and make it mandatory to use HTTP 1.1 based hosting for _upgraded_ installations. I don't know how to enforce that, however. Otherwise, I can live with that proposal. Best regards, s. -- Sascha Luck | Multimedia Infrastructure Group Eircom PLC | Internet House / Teach Idirline phone: +353-1-7010900 | 26-34 TempleBar / Barra an Teampaill mailto: lucks@indigo.ie | Dublin 2 / Baile Atha Cliath 2