
Hi, we are LIR since May 2000. At this time we received a /19 allocation. It seems to be a question of general availability situation in the moment of registration. Kind regards, Jens ===================================================================== DDkom Die Dresdner Telekommunikationsgesellschaft mbH Bereich - IP-Dienste - / Department IP Services AS13270 route 212.80.224.0/19 =====================================================================
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Patrick Evans [mailto:pre@pre.org] Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2002 16:36 An: Tanja Heimes Cc: lir-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: first allocation
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tanja Heimes wrote:
Hi All,
a simple question:
What is the size of a first allocation for a new LIR - a /20 or /19.
It's a /20
I set up an LIR about a year ago and asked the same question at the time and was told the documents were being revised to clear up the inconsistencies. Whether that's happened I couldn't say.
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Hello Jens, as Gerd Doering wrote there started to be a discussion to lower the size of the first allocation at RIPE-39. I think at RIPE-40 there was made the desicion to lower it to a /20. (This was in 10/2001) This presentation is from Nurani Nimpuno and she held it at the RIPE-40. http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-40/presentations/ipv4-as-poli... Regards, Tanja "Hoffmann, Jens" wrote:
Hi,
we are LIR since May 2000.
At this time we received a /19 allocation. It seems to be a question of general availability situation in the moment of registration.
Kind regards, Jens
===================================================================== DDkom Die Dresdner Telekommunikationsgesellschaft mbH Bereich - IP-Dienste - / Department IP Services AS13270 route 212.80.224.0/19 =====================================================================
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Patrick Evans [mailto:pre@pre.org] Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2002 16:36 An: Tanja Heimes Cc: lir-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: first allocation
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tanja Heimes wrote:
Hi All,
a simple question:
What is the size of a first allocation for a new LIR - a /20 or /19.
It's a /20
I set up an LIR about a year ago and asked the same question at the time and was told the documents were being revised to clear up the inconsistencies. Whether that's happened I couldn't say.
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Hi, On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 04:56:44PM +0200, Hoffmann, Jens wrote:
we are LIR since May 2000.
At this time we received a /19 allocation. It seems to be a question of general availability situation in the moment of registration.
Please don't start such kind of rumors. Policies are made and decided upon by the RIPE community, and *executed* by the RIPE NCC hostmasters. There are certain rules, and they are documented (even if the docs are sometimes hiding). There is no random element, and there is no "availability" thing - this isn't communism. As long as there is IPv4 space left, the same rules apply to everybody. When you got your allocation, which was in 2000, the /19 was the minimum allocation size. This was changed in 2001. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 45114 (45077) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299

we are LIR since May 2000. At this time we received a /19 allocation. It seems to be a question of general availability situation in the moment of registration.
becuase they take less one less one bit on the average, more even numbered ipv4 addresses are manufactured than are odd numbered addresses. so, if you apply on an even numbered day, you get more addresses than if you apply on an odd numbered day. randy
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Gert Doering
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Hoffmann, Jens
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Randy Bush
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Tanja Heimes