RE: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
note to self: I'll probably regret having a word wih this troll, but I'll take the chances. :) Jim, WHAT makes you think that RIPE NCC pays for addresses? WHOM do you think they pay to? Please don't even mention IPv8/IPv16 this time, they are not in the question so I expect an answer clean of those two. Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701 http://boyan.ludost.net/ Just another techie speaking for himself
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:21 PM To: Peter Galbavy; Axel Pawlik Cc: Local IR Working Group Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Given that 32-bit IP addresses lease(rent) for $10 to $15 per month... ...and given that Real Estate brokers generally take one month's rent per year as a fee... ....the market value for a /8 would be approximately $168,000,000 per year...
How much does RIPE pay (wholesale) for a /8 ? http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space 082/8 Nov 02 RIPE NCC (whois.ripe.net) ===
----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyan Krosnov" <bkrosnov@lirex.bg> WHAT makes you think that RIPE NCC pays for addresses? WHOM do you think they pay to? http://lacnic.net/en/transition.html "On 2 September 2002, customers in the emerging LACNIC region will begin to receive invoices from LACNIC. Monies will be payable in US dollars. All monies collected by LACNIC will be transferred to ARIN. ARIN in turn will return a portion of those monies to LACNIC to help sustain LACNIC operations. Upon final recognition, the transfer of monies will cease. The target date for the cessation of money transfer is 18 November 2002."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyan Krosnov" <bkrosnov@lirex.bg> WHAT makes you think that RIPE NCC pays for addresses? WHOM do you think they pay to? ICANN is a business...ICANN leases Address Space...domain names are a side show...a distraction... http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space http://www.caida.org/analysis/geopolitical/bgp2country/
http://www.arin.net/library/minutes/bot/bot04082002.html Release of Portion of Escrow Funds to ICANN Scott Bradner motioned that the ARIN Board of Trustees authorize the President to release $243,020.00 to ICANN. This represents 50% of the funds that ARIN is holding in escrow pending the execution of a contract between the RIRs and ICANN. This was seconded by Scott Marcus. The Chair called for vote in which the motion passed unanimously. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyan Krosnov" <bkrosnov@lirex.bg> To: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@Ameritech.Net> Cc: "Local IR Working Group" <lir-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: RE: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ? note to self: I'll probably regret having a word wih this troll, but I'll take the chances. :) Jim, WHAT makes you think that RIPE NCC pays for addresses? WHOM do you think they pay to? Please don't even mention IPv8/IPv16 this time, they are not in the question so I expect an answer clean of those two. Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701 http://boyan.ludost.net/ Just another techie speaking for himself
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:21 PM To: Peter Galbavy; Axel Pawlik Cc: Local IR Working Group Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Given that 32-bit IP addresses lease(rent) for $10 to $15 per month... ...and given that Real Estate brokers generally take one month's rent per year as a fee... ....the market value for a /8 would be approximately $168,000,000 per year...
How much does RIPE pay (wholesale) for a /8 ? http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space 082/8 Nov 02 RIPE NCC (whois.ripe.net) ===
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