What is the position of the RIPE NCC/RIPE community on the address space of a SP that disappears from the net? Is there a clear statement somewhere describing that all of the SP PA-space needs to be returned within x months to RIPE? What we and other providers are seeing is that KPNQ customers want to retain their PA space if they move over; we would like them to renumber (of course :-) and as long as KPNQ as an entity is around we insist on it, in the usual timeframe. But in the case the pullups go, signifying the end of a network, and there is no clear RIPE policy behind this, I suspect not many providers will care about getting these customers renumbered if these customers feel they retain sufficient global connectivity. The net result is an increase of the size of the routing table. Is this detailed in the LIR contract or something and what is the value of that contract if the LIR disappears, but the customers find connectivity elsewhere? -- Thanks! Andr[alt-130] Stiphout - Mngr IP Core, Standards & Analysis WorldCom - Network Services - Data Technology - AS702 Ultima Ratio Regum - Louis XIV PGP Fingerprint C8 98 2D 73 5E 2A 11 01 41 C1 70 B7 95 9D 1A 4C