Jorma Mellin wrote:

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Or HTML which is readable by even more systems than PDF. It's usually a 'one-mouse-click' action to create a proper HTML file within this M$ word app and you're done.

This M$ stuff shows how well these GSM people understand the way the Internet community works. And yet they are pleading addresses. I wonder why they are so keen to have publicly routable address space (from IPv4!) but not so worried about public AS numbers. To my ears this sounds that they haven't really though about this enough.

Jorma Mellin

On the contrary, it was thought through and discussed by all present at the working group. All issues where noted and as a hostmaster for a large ISP i tended to play devils advocate when it came to thorny questions like private address space or not and private root DNS or not. I am sure that a careful consideration of all the facts, by all who where not at the working party would see that all the relavent issues where looked into and reasonable answers were given. I agree for the most part the GSM people where not that Internet literate but once we put aside all preconceived ideas and got down to real engineering reasonings, the whole thing made sense. As for using public address space in a private enviroment without public AS numbers iit s very simple, private address space is limited to the ranges as detailed in the RFC, this network is going to be global and each network needs to be unique and using private address space would have caused logistical nightmares. For instance it is envisaged they whould run out of address space very quickly as 10.0.0.0/8 whould only be enough for Europe(as have UUNET / Worlcom internal networks), also if you have independant companies approaching the GPSM initiative from differant sides of the globe both using 10.0.0.0/8 and then want to connect to each other directly to enable roaming which company should renumber a multi million node GPSM network. But the use of private AS numbers is not nearly as difficult to administer or renumber to allow differant networks to talk to each other. Hope this helps. BTW i find it difficult to appreciate how the use of a piece of software to produce a technical report is a mesure of a persons RIPE compectance, i would rather say its a measure peoples unwillingness to accept another practical use of IP into the RIPE community. Lets work to help them into the community not allienate them from it. Regards, Stephen Burley UUNET EMEA Hostmaster

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