------- Forwarded Message Received: (qmail 27135 invoked from network); 12 Nov 1997 12:30:05 -0000 Received: from ncc.ripe.net (193.0.0.129) by postman.ripe.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 1997 12:30:05 -0000 Received: from postman.ripe.net by ncc.ripe.net with SMTP id AA15879 (5.65a/NCC-2.41); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:30:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 27119 invoked from network); 12 Nov 1997 12:29:50 -0000 Received: from ns.east.ru (195.170.32.18) by postman.ripe.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 1997 12:29:50 -0000 Received: from ish.east.ru (ish@ish.east.ru [195.170.32.35]) by ns.east.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5/BD2) with SMTP id PAA26974; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:27:02 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199711121227.PAA26974@ns.east.ru> Reply-To: "Ilya Shulman" <ish@east.ru> From: "Ilya Shulman" <ish@east.ru> To: <local-ir@ripn.net> Cc: <ncc@ripe.net>, <local-ir@ripe.net>, <ncc@ripn.net>, <local-ir@ripn.net> Subject: Re: [local-ir] Re: ripe-167 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:29:20 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I cut off some of the CCs cause I think that's ncc@rip[n,e].net and ncc@[rip[n|e].net will be sufficient. - -----Original Message----- From: Alex P. Rudnev <alex@relcom.EU.net> To: local-ir@ripn.net <local-ir@ripn.net> Cc: plat@ripn.net <plat@ripn.net>; stesin@gu.net <stesin@gu.net>; Mirjam.Kuehne@ripe.net <Mirjam.Kuehne@ripe.net>; Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net>; k13@nikhef.nl <k13@nikhef.nl>; postel@isi.edu <postel@isi.edu>; ncc@ripe.net <ncc@ripe.net>; hostmaster@ripe.net <hostmaster@ripe.net>; local-ir@ripe.net <local-ir@ripe.net>; local-ir@ripn.net <local-ir@ripn.net>; lir-wg@ripe.net <lir-wg@ripe.net>; ncc@ripn.net <ncc@ripn.net> Date: 12 NOQBRQ 1997 G. 15:10 Subject: Re: [local-ir] Re: ripe-167

I do not insist to have there independent LIR at once - but at least you must have some office there, with people speaking in English and Russion, and bank transferese available in Roubles. And there must be someone in Amsterdam who represents our interests, anyway.

as a matter of fact now any ISP in Russia has the right to choose between serving in RIPE or in ROSNIIROS. If you choose RIPN (ROSNIIROS) , you pay more but in roubles, you wait longer (time differences? heh ) but you have local number in Moscow, russian speaking person etc. And ROSNIIROS handle all problems with RIPE. In other words if you choose RIPN instead of RIPE you have all the benefits. However you may choose to receive services directly from RIPE. And then you pay directly to RIPE, talk directly to RIPE. Have a trip to Amsterdam if you wish. I do agree that there are lotsa local problems and it will be better if somebody handles it locally. Your right to choose (c) CNN ;) - ------ Ilya Shulman ish@east.ru +7-095-956-4951 ISH-RIPN East Connection ISP, Moscow, Russia. http://www.east.ru ------- End of Forwarded Message