Re: Question Regarding Behaviour Of German Top Level Registry
-------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- No doubt ! My simple question: does the above justify a yearly fee of US$ 390 ?
They are simply not capable to do their work in a correct amount of time. In my opinion the price should be around 50-100$. The worst thing is that they charge more for works which take less time. Registering a nameserver is more expensive than registering a host (which might change more frequently). But we have to stick with that until their contract terminates. I strongly reccomend to find someone else who does that job until that time. Yust as a remark. Pinging their primary nameserver for germany ns.nic.de 193.196.32.1, returns 48% packet loss. Dont tell me that this is fast. If this server is slow, whole germany is slow... Andreas Fink --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ping Net GmbH, Dorfstrasse 21, 8902 Urdorf, Switzerland afink@ping.ch http://www.ping.ch/ Tel: 01-7358333 Fax: 01-7358334 Administration: admin@ping.ch Tech Support: support@ping.ch --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ping Net Sarl, World Trade Cent er, Av. Gratta Paille 2, 1000 Lausanne 30, Switzerland. Tel: 021-6411339 Fax: 021-6411310 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Andreas Fink wrote:
-------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- No doubt ! My simple question: does the above justify a yearly fee of US$ 390 ?
They are simply not capable to do their work in a correct amount of time.
You are just telling nonsense. We are using DE-NIC services all the day and we are very happy with them. The work is done professional and requests are processed within at most three working days.
In my opinion the price should be around 50-100$. The worst thing is that they charge more for works which take less time. Registering a nameserver is more expensive than registering a host (which might change more frequently). But we have to stick with that until their contract terminates. I strongly reccomend to find someone else who does that job until that time.
Dont't talk about things you don't understand.
Yust as a remark. Pinging their primary nameserver for germany ns.nic.de 193.196.32.1, returns 48% packet loss. Dont tell me that this is fast. If this server is slow, whole germany is slow...
Connectivity to US is bad but connectivity to Europe is very well. My figures show a loss rate of 7% for i.root-servers.net.
Andreas Fink
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From: afink@ping.ch (Andreas Fink) Subject: Re: Question Regarding Behaviour Of German Top Level Registry Cc: local-ir@ripe.net
-------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- No doubt ! My simple question: does the above justify a yearly fee of US$ 390 ?
They are simply not capable to do their work in a correct amount of time. In my opinion the price should be around 50-100$. The worst thing is that they charge more for works which take less time. Registering a nameserver is more expensive than registering a host (which might change more frequently). But we have to stick with that until their contract terminates. I strongly reccomend to find someone else who does that job until that time.
Just for clarification. The University of Karlsruhe runs the DENIC on a fixed prize rate for three years on behalf of the IV-DENIC which is a consortium of German service providers. Initially it was intended that everybody who wants service have to become a member of the IV-DENIC and share the costs. As for some reasons it has become necessary to sell service on a per domain base the IV-DENIC started to install the model with the prizes which are discussed at the moment. NOTE: You buy the DENIC service from the IV, not from the University of Karlsruhe. Beside of that everbody is still free to choose if he wants to become a member of the IV-DENIC or buy service on a per domain base. Sabine Dolderer -- _0_ Sabine Dolderer eMail: dolderer@nic.de / \ RZ<-- Rechenzentrum/DE-NIC \_______/ Universitaet Karlsruhe Tel: +49 721 373723 / / | \ \ Postfach 6980 Fax: +49 721 373741 _/_/__|__\_\_ D-76128 Karlsruhe Fax: +49 721 32550
Gentlepeople, could you please take this discussion off <local-ir@ripe.net> unless there are general issues for the consideration of the WG. Daniel
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