RE: IP assignment for virtual webhosting
Dear Nurani!
Subj: IP assignment for virtual webhosting
Before making up my mind I'd like to better understand what (in the following parapraph)
We do however wish to raise our concern regarding what we see as an inefficient usage of addresses in our limited address pool. We would therefore like to request the community to consider making it mandatory for NEW installations to use domain based web-hosting, with the exception of a set of agreed applications needing IP based web-hosting (eg. SSL).
"NEW installations" is in reality? I could come up with a couple of different interpretations, like: - an existing ISP or Web-Hotel can use the old technology, new sites are required to use the new technology, or - replacing or upgrading en existing web server (hardware only? software only? both?) requires the new technology to be deployed, or - .... But probably it's just because I don't know too much about web hosting in the first place... Wilfried. _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear all, maybe it would be clearer for everyone if instead of "new installations" we say "new (IP) allocations", because that's more along the lines we were thinking. The idea is not to force old installations to reinvent themselves due to a policy change, rather to make more efficient use of address space in the future, based on currently available technology. Also the list of exceptions is up for discussion, SSL was an initial kick-off example but it is ultimately the ISPs that have to agree on the list. We'll be happy to assemble the list and will propose all applications we see ourselves as needing IP based hosting, but it would be impossible for us to come up with a complete list of all the imaginative applications of technology that ISPs are using. Also I don't think such a list would have to be "set in stone" as, fortunately, the Internet is constantly evolving. We look forward to a discussion on the list and next week at the RIPE meeting. Joao Damas Head of External Services RIPE NCC
Joao Luis Silva Damas said:
We'll be happy to assemble the list and will propose all applications we see ourselves as needing IP based hosting, but it would be impossible for us to come up with a complete list of all the imaginative applications of technology that ISPs are using.
It's not an issue of technologies. As Brian Dickson pointed out, the "slashdot effect" is enough to make you want to move a site to a new host or IP address. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Work: <clive@demon.net> | Tel: +44 20 8371 1138 Internet Expert | Home: <clive@davros.org> | Fax: +44 20 8371 1037 Demon Internet | WWW: http://www.davros.org | DFax: +44 20 8371 4037 Thus plc | | Mobile: +44 7973 377646
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Clive D.W. Feather -
Joao Luis Silva Damas -
Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet