Re: Privacy of info in IP requests [was: Re: Draft internic ip allocation doc]
Dave Morton <Dave.Morton@ecrc.de> writes: Wilfried - we already have had the situation where we've been asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement for the same reasons as stated.
Was that in your capacity as a lcoal IR?
Yes. Mabye I should be thinking of asking the Local IR list to sign the same or a similar agreement before proceeding here :-))))0
I'd expect it to become more common with more commercial entities appearing.
Probably. We have had no concrete request to sign anything yet.
It might even be an idea for RIPE NCC and local IRs to perhaps offer this anyway to organisations seeking space etc. simply to avoid any potential legal hassles later. Yes - I know things are treated confidentially but it may be better to make it explicit.
It is explicit in ripe-104 and the request forms.
Yes - thanks for pointing this out again - I had forgotten...
Making it more explicit would involve lawyers here, take time and cost money.
So would getting sued....
I can investigate a general nondisclosure statement a sufficient number of the lcoal-IRs think this is a good idea they want to pay for. I suspoct however that it will again be a question of national law etc.
I wouldn't bother - paste it out of 104 and put some juicy legal sounding terminology around it and if anyone wants one sign it and fax it to them. There is nothing really legally complicated that I can see - non-disclosure agreeements are common business practice used every day - one doesn't need a lawyer to formulate one IMHO.
Daniel
Dave
Dave Morton <Dave.Morton@ecrc.de> writes:
I wouldn't bother - paste it out of 104 and put some juicy legal sounding terminology around it and if anyone wants one sign it and fax it to them. There is nothing really legally complicated that I can see - non-disclosure agreeements are common business practice used every day - one doesn't need a lawyer to formulate one IMHO.
That's what I will certainly not do, because it may make things worse than I expect *if* I get sued. Terms like "inent", "negligence", "gross negligence", "reasonable precautions", "state-of-the-art precations" start ringing in my ears. I want to know beforehand what my exposure is and if I must disconnect my machines from the net and keep them in a locked vault ;-). Daniel
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