Re: [lir-wg] Remove all games from your laptop before going tothe RIPE meeting
I know it is a strange law, but everyone is looking at the negatives. There are also some positives to this law. Just think what an opportunity this is for Greek kids to re-invent long lost human skills like social interaction, face to face conversation, sport, exercising the whole body rather than just the fingers. Maybe even people will start to smile at each other on a train or bus or talk to each other in a queue instead of everyone sitting/standing there with heads down starring at their mobile phones like a bunch of zombies. It could be a new model for mankind :) cheers denis (who hates computer games anyway) Rudolf van der Berg <r.vanderberg@ndix.net> writes: * --=====================_169121053==_.ALT * Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed * * At 09:25 5-9-2002, Chris Hallam wrote: * * >How are they defining the term, 'Game'? Surely it won't be long before * >they have to outlaw Internet browsing due to the various applets the pop * >up here and there. How did that law get passed, and what is it supposed * >to achieve? * > * >Chris * * To find the full text of the law, go here: http://www.netcafe.gr/files/law.t * xt * * Article 1d describes it in the broadest terms possible: (quote) d. * Electronic games are those, that depend on both electrical-electronic * mechanisms and software. (end quote) * * So when arriving in Greece, they could take away your cell-phone, cause it * can play Tic Tac Toe, Snake or Space Invaders. :-) On the other hand... * don't be too frightened. The law was passed to battle illegal gambling, * certainly after a member of parliament was caught red-handed playing video * poker. For more information you could read here, especially the third * letter. : * * http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5208 * * greetings, * * Rudolf * * --=====================_169121053==_.ALT * Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" * * <html> * At 09:25 5-9-2002, Chris Hallam wrote:<br><br> * <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>How are they defining * the term, 'Game'? Surely it won't be long before they have to * outlaw Internet browsing due to the various applets the pop up here and * there. How did that law get passed, and what is it supposed to * achieve?<br> * </font><br> * <font size=2>Chris</font> </blockquote><br> * To find the full text of the law, go here: * <a href="http://www.netcafe.gr/files/law.txt" eudora="autourl">http://www.ne * tcafe.gr/files/law.txt</a><br><br> * Article 1d describes it in the broadest terms possible: (quote) d. * Electronic games are those, that depend on both electrical-electronic * mechanisms and software. (end quote)<br><br> * So when arriving in Greece, they could take away your cell-phone, cause * it can play Tic Tac Toe, Snake or Space Invaders. :-) On the other * hand... don't be too frightened. The law was passed to battle illegal * gambling, certainly after a member of parliament was caught red-handed * playing video poker. For more information you could read here, especially * the third letter. : <br><br> * <a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5208" eudora="autourl">http://w * ww.theinquirer.net/?article=5208</a><br><br> * greetings,<br><br> * Rudolf<br> * </html> * * --=====================_169121053==_.ALT-- *
Thank you Denis for those words that remind us that all the relations between the humans are being replaced by relations with the dump machines with out any imagination or any Dreams... sam Denis Walker a écrit:
I know it is a strange law, but everyone is looking at the negatives. There are also some positives to this law.
Just think what an opportunity this is for Greek kids to re-invent long lost human skills like social interaction, face to face conversation, sport, exercising the whole body rather than just the fingers. Maybe even people will start to smile at each other on a train or bus or talk to each other in a queue instead of everyone sitting/standing there with heads down starring at their mobile phones like a bunch of zombies. It could be a new model for mankind :)
cheers denis (who hates computer games anyway)
Rudolf van der Berg <r.vanderberg@ndix.net> writes: * --=====================_169121053==_.ALT * Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed * * At 09:25 5-9-2002, Chris Hallam wrote: * * >How are they defining the term, 'Game'? Surely it won't be long before * >they have to outlaw Internet browsing due to the various applets the pop * >up here and there. How did that law get passed, and what is it supposed * >to achieve? * > * >Chris * * To find the full text of the law, go here: http://www.netcafe.gr/files/law.t * xt * * Article 1d describes it in the broadest terms possible: (quote) d. * Electronic games are those, that depend on both electrical-electronic * mechanisms and software. (end quote) * * So when arriving in Greece, they could take away your cell-phone, cause it * can play Tic Tac Toe, Snake or Space Invaders. :-) On the other hand... * don't be too frightened. The law was passed to battle illegal gambling, * certainly after a member of parliament was caught red-handed playing video * poker. For more information you could read here, especially the third * letter. : * * http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5208 * * greetings, * * Rudolf * * --=====================_169121053==_.ALT * Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" * * <html> * At 09:25 5-9-2002, Chris Hallam wrote:<br><br> * <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>How are they defining * the term, 'Game'? Surely it won't be long before they have to * outlaw Internet browsing due to the various applets the pop up here and * there. How did that law get passed, and what is it supposed to * achieve?<br> * </font><br> * <font size=2>Chris</font> </blockquote><br> * To find the full text of the law, go here: * <a href="http://www.netcafe.gr/files/law.txt" eudora="autourl">http://www.ne * tcafe.gr/files/law.txt</a><br><br> * Article 1d describes it in the broadest terms possible: (quote) d. * Electronic games are those, that depend on both electrical-electronic * mechanisms and software. (end quote)<br><br> * So when arriving in Greece, they could take away your cell-phone, cause * it can play Tic Tac Toe, Snake or Space Invaders. :-) On the other * hand... don't be too frightened. The law was passed to battle illegal * gambling, certainly after a member of parliament was caught red-handed * playing video poker. For more information you could read here, especially * the third letter. : <br><br> * <a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5208" eudora="autourl">http://w * ww.theinquirer.net/?article=5208</a><br><br> * greetings,<br><br> * Rudolf<br> * </html> * * --=====================_169121053==_.ALT-- *
Yes, it will also cut down dramatically software piracy (for games, at least :) Jonathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Walker" <denis@ripe.net>
I know it is a strange law, but everyone is looking at the negatives. There are also some positives to this law.
cheers denis (who hates computer games anyway)
I have heard enough about this for now. If you are not a gamer then you should have no worries. If you do enjoy a game every so often then help out the poor Greek gamers by signing the petition... link below. http://www.petitiononline.com/comp5932/petition.html On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:31:25 +0200 "Jonathan Ruano" <ruanoj@redestel.com> wrote:
Yes, it will also cut down dramatically software piracy (for games, at least :)
Jonathan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Walker" <denis@ripe.net>
I know it is a strange law, but everyone is looking at the negatives. There are also some positives to this law.
cheers denis (who hates computer games anyway)
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