Re: [ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Stesin <stesin@gu.net> To: Sergey A. Mukhin <violet@rosnet.net>
Ok, we are waiting for a new better and solid document. Show it to us, and we'll (probably) start thinking on it...
Andrey, but you can agree that RIPE office in Moscow will be useful in any case. I think that it is clear that RIPN provides services in Moscow and we need it. Discussion about RIR should be continued, but it should not stop current work.
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Dmitri Bourkov wrote:
Ok, we are waiting for a new better and solid document. Show it to us, and we'll (probably) start thinking on it...
Andrey, but you can agree that RIPE office in Moscow will be useful in any case.
As for me, I'm going to let RIPE themselves decide where to place their office(s)... as soon as it's RIPE not someone else who uses RIPE's name, *and* the amount of funds taken from contributor's vallet won't increase without a real need for it.
I think that it is clear that RIPN provides services in Moscow and we need it.
No problem.
Discussion about RIR should be continued, but it should not stop current work.
Let's stop this discussion here until a new document will be prepared and published with all the doubtful issues cleared. Best regards, Andrew Stesin nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE
Hello.. the discussion is now going to become boring. Sorry to say that, but i see two parties, fighting for their side, but the real problem is not a technical problem but a political one. Ripe and the community could solve problems of type nr. (1) but not of nr. (2)
Andrey, but you can agree that RIPE office in Moscow will be useful in any case. hmm, why ? what can *only* be done in moscow and *not* in amsterdam. If we start this, than other countries want also an office. Does this really make sense ? It leads into a distribution of man power and knowledge. I cant see any justification to open an office in moscow without opening one in madrid/paris/roma/vienna etc... Please stop this discussion and we can continue if anybody provides the communitiy with *good* arguments, why we should open an office in moscow. Please no discussion about the "internet-language" english. This is a fact. And dont come up with the timezones... we have to work sometimes with internic. The time-difference between us and the usa is higher than those between amsterdam and moscow....
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