Dear Sirs, it seems that RIPE NCC has adopted a spamming policy....... Could you (all of you) please stop filling our mailboxes with such crap? Do I really need to remember you the meaning of words like "respect", "customers", "service fee", etc. Stop it and stop it IMMEDIATELY! Thank you very much in advance. Best regards, Costantino Imbrauglio cimbrauglio@bancaimi.it Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message <4.2.0.58.20000419140140.00c56100@localhost>, Axel Pawlik writes:
As you may be aware, we have a longstanding policy of not discussing internal matters of the RIPE NCC in public.
Well, In general one doesn't want to wash the laundry in public, but in case something is truly rotten, one may have to.
I'm not passing judgment on the various allegations here, but simply the fact that it has gotten to this point indicates that something smells fishy.
We may have two hostmasters who were fired for total incompetence or we may have two whistleblowers sacked to keep them quiet, there is no way we can tell - yet.
The Executive Board of the RIPE NCC Association, as the ultimate members' representation, will be happy to discuss any issue you feel you cannot bring up with the Managing Director.
(Well, obviously people have no problems with bringing things up with you, it seems that the issue is the other way around...)
I think we need to get a message from the exec board stating that they will look into these matters ASAP.
This is fairly and squarely what the exec board is responsible for.
I think both the overall issue of hostmaster training, the rapid turnover of hostmasters (if this is indeed the case), and the two specific persons mentioned in previous emails needs to be examined.
I think it would be a good idea if the exec board did a round of interviews with all current employees of RIPE and maybe a couple of former ones to get to the bottom of this issue.
I think we all want this resolved, and fast please, we have business to attend.
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What about Cosmic Peace? 1.Peace 2.Love and 3.Sex or do you prefer mental maturbation? please stop this SPAMMING or change argument...... bye A.
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-local-ir@ripe.net [mailto:owner-local-ir@ripe.net]Per conto di Costantino Imbrauglio Inviato: mercoledl 19 aprile 2000 17.45 A: Poul-Henning Kamp; lir-wg@ripe.net; local-ir@ripe.net Oggetto: Re: Recent Mails to the list
Dear Sirs,
it seems that RIPE NCC has adopted a spamming policy.......
Could you (all of you) please stop filling our mailboxes with such crap?
Do I really need to remember you the meaning of words like "respect", "customers", "service fee", etc.
Stop it and stop it IMMEDIATELY!
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
Costantino Imbrauglio cimbrauglio@bancaimi.it
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message <4.2.0.58.20000419140140.00c56100@localhost>, Axel Pawlik writes:
As you may be aware, we have a longstanding policy of not discussing internal matters of the RIPE NCC in public.
Well, In general one doesn't want to wash the laundry in public, but in case something is truly rotten, one may have to.
I'm not passing judgment on the various allegations here, but simply the fact that it has gotten to this point indicates that something smells fishy.
We may have two hostmasters who were fired for total incompetence or we may have two whistleblowers sacked to keep them quiet, there is no way we can tell - yet.
The Executive Board of the RIPE NCC Association, as the ultimate members' representation, will be happy to discuss any issue you feel you cannot bring up with the Managing Director.
(Well, obviously people have no problems with bringing things up with you, it seems that the issue is the other way around...)
I think we need to get a message from the exec board stating that they will look into these matters ASAP.
This is fairly and squarely what the exec board is responsible for.
I think both the overall issue of hostmaster training, the rapid turnover of hostmasters (if this is indeed the case), and the two specific persons mentioned in previous emails needs to be examined.
I think it would be a good idea if the exec board did a round of interviews with all current employees of RIPE and maybe a couple of former ones to get to the bottom of this issue.
I think we all want this resolved, and fast please, we have business to attend.
-- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
-- This message is confidential and solely for the intended addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. Unauthorised reproduction, disclosure, modification and/or distribution of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The contents of this e-mail do not constitute a commitment by Banca d'Intermediazione Mobiliare IMI S.p.A. (Banca IMI), except where expressly provided for in a written agreement between you and Banca IMI.
Banca dIntermediazione Mobiliare IMI S.p.A. is an authorised Bank in Italy. Banca dIntermediazione Mobiliare IMI S.p.A., London Branch, a member of the London Stock Exchange, is regulated by the Securities and Futures Authority for the conduct of investment business in the UK.
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