Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:56:06 +0300 (MSK) Cc: plat@ripn.net, stesin@gu.net, Mirjam.Kuehne@ripe.net, Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net, k13@nikhef.nl, postel@isi.edu, ncc@ripe.net, hostmaster@ripe.net, local-ir@ripe.net, local-ir@ripn.net, lir-wg@ripe.net, ncc@ripn.net From: Alexei Platonov <plat@ripn.net>
According to Oleg Petrovych:
I didn't quite understand, Ucrainian ISPs don't like the idea
Please, as the first step, write "Ukraine" rigthly:-(
Well, for that matter, never use `rightly', there is just `right' in English. Have you something to offer as the second step, or that's all?
I'm sorry.
of RIR at all, or they don't like it to be based on some Yes, don't like absolute.
ok
Best regards, Alexei Platonov
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At 01:05 13.11.97 +0300, Sergey A. Mukhin wrote: [ snip ]
I didn't quite understand, Ucrainian ISPs don't like the idea Please, as the first step, write "Ukraine" rigthly:-(
Well, for that matter, never use `rightly', there is just `right' in English.
Have you something to offer as the second step, or that's all?
How about moving this discussion *off* the *@ripe.net list? -- Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards Stig Bull IP-drift Telenor Nextel AS email privat: stig@undernet.org email jobb: sb@online.no Tlf sentralbord: 22 77 19 00
Stig Bull <sb@online.no> writes: * At 01:05 13.11.97 +0300, Sergey A. Mukhin wrote: * * [ snip ] * * >> > > I didn't quite understand, Ucrainian ISPs don't like the idea * >> > Please, as the first step, write "Ukraine" rigthly:-( * > * >Well, for that matter, never use `rightly', there is just `right' * >in English. * > * >Have you something to offer as the second step, or that's all? * > * * How about moving this discussion *off* the *@ripe.net list? * It is important that LIRs hear what's going on in the NCC's service region. These developments may be relevant not only for LIR's in the CIS/xUSSR region. The discussion should however be on the lir-wg list and not on the local-ir list. Constructive discussion is always welcome on the lir-wg list. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne Manager Registration Services RIPE NCC P.S.: I am not sure if people who are subscribed to local-ir@ripn.net are also subscribed to lir-wg@ripe.net. In this case I assume mails do not have to be sent to both lists. * * * -- * * Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards * * Stig Bull * IP-drift * Telenor Nextel AS * * email privat: stig@undernet.org * email jobb: sb@online.no * Tlf sentralbord: 22 77 19 00 *
At 10:14 13.11.97 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
* How about moving this discussion *off* the *@ripe.net list? *
It is important that LIRs hear what's going on in the NCC's service region. These developments may be relevant not only for LIR's in the CIS/xUSSR region.
The discussion should however be on the lir-wg list and not on the local-ir list. Constructive discussion is always welcome on the lir-wg list.
Well, my point is, teaching some people how to write proper English, or show how you say "Why not continue this thread in English?" in your native language, is not relevant at all for all the European ISP's out there, and it generates a lot of noise on these lists. These mailinglists should be used (IMHO) _exclusively_ for sharing knowledge and providing useful information. <joke> What about a junkmail@ripe.net alias? ;-) </joke> -- Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards Stig Bull IP-drift Telenor Nextel AS email privat: stig@undernet.org email jobb: sb@online.no Tlf sentralbord: 22 77 19 00
On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:36:23 +0100 Stig Bull <sb@online.no> wrote:
Well, my point is, teaching some people how to write proper English, or show how you say "Why not continue this thread in English?" in your native language, is not relevant at all for all the European ISP's out there, and it generates a lot of noise on these lists. These mailinglists should be used (IMHO) _exclusively_ for sharing knowledge and providing useful information.
<joke> What about a junkmail@ripe.net alias? ;-) </joke>
Who are you to decide whats relevant for me and whats not? Would it not be easier for you to stop wasting other peoples time and unsubscribe from the RIPE lists. You clearly aren't interested in what happens to the RIPE and the Internet at as whole. I for one want to know whats happening. Please shut up. Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking. C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT.NET Ascend GRF: 100% CpF [Cisco protection Factor] Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>
At 09:50 13.11.97 +0000, Neil J. McRae wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:36:23 +0100
Who are you to decide whats relevant for me and whats not? Er det relevant for deg og resten av Europa når jeg skriver slike mail på mitt språk? (Is it relevant for you and the rest of Europe when I write mails like this in my native language?)
Would it not be easier for you to stop wasting other peoples time and unsubscribe from the RIPE lists. You clearly aren't interested in what happens to the RIPE and the Internet at as whole. I for one want to know whats happening.
I think you missed my point. Please re-read my email. I said these lists should be used for useful information, *not* for sending "Hi mom!" mails. End of discussion. -- Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards Stig Bull IP-drift Telenor Nextel AS email privat: stig@undernet.org email jobb: sb@online.no Tlf sentralbord: 22 77 19 00
According to Stig Bull:
At 01:05 13.11.97 +0300, Sergey A. Mukhin wrote:
[ snip ]
I didn't quite understand, Ucrainian ISPs don't like the idea Please, as the first step, write "Ukraine" rigthly:-(
Well, for that matter, never use `rightly', there is just `right' in English.
Have you something to offer as the second step, or that's all?
How about moving this discussion *off* the *@ripe.net list?
Yes, it is reasonable to use local-ir@ripn.net, if we need further discussion. The list is in Russian (but of course, we can use English or any other :-) ) Regards, Alexei Platonov RosNIIROS (RIPN)
Alexei Platonov <plat@ripn.net> writes: * According to Stig Bull: * > At 01:05 13.11.97 +0300, Sergey A. Mukhin wrote: * > * > [ snip ] * > * > >> > > I didn't quite understand, Ucrainian ISPs don't like the idea * > >> > Please, as the first step, write "Ukraine" rigthly:-( * > > * > >Well, for that matter, never use `rightly', there is just `right' * > >in English. * > > * > >Have you something to offer as the second step, or that's all? * > > * > * > How about moving this discussion *off* the *@ripe.net list? * > * * Yes, it is reasonable to use local-ir@ripn.net, if we need * further discussion. The list is in Russian (but of course, we * can use English or any other :-) ) * Please do not move the discussion from lir-wg@ripe.net. I (and others at the RIPE NCC and probably also some of the non russian speaking registries) would like to follow it. Thanks, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC * Regards, * Alexei Platonov * RosNIIROS (RIPN) * * * *
Hi, I'll check that lir-wg@ripe.net is included in discussion lists. Regards, Alexei Platonov According to Mirjam Kuehne:
Alexei Platonov <plat@ripn.net> writes: * According to Stig Bull: * > At 01:05 13.11.97 +0300, Sergey A. Mukhin wrote: * > * > [ snip ] * > * > >> > > I didn't quite understand, Ucrainian ISPs don't like the idea * > >> > Please, as the first step, write "Ukraine" rigthly:-( * > > * > >Well, for that matter, never use `rightly', there is just `right' * > >in English. * > > * > >Have you something to offer as the second step, or that's all? * > > * > * > How about moving this discussion *off* the *@ripe.net list? * > * * Yes, it is reasonable to use local-ir@ripn.net, if we need * further discussion. The list is in Russian (but of course, we * can use English or any other :-) ) *
Please do not move the discussion from lir-wg@ripe.net. I (and others at the RIPE NCC and probably also some of the non russian speaking registries) would like to follow it.
Thanks, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC
* Regards, * Alexei Platonov * RosNIIROS (RIPN) * * * *
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Alexei Platonov -
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Sergey A. Mukhin -
Stig Bull